TRon Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "Best isn't good enough" Nice tagline from Young there Way to put words in Pardew's mouth Pardew finding it hard to keep a lid on his frustration with the board there tbf. Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Another thing: it would be nice to see responsibility fall on the manager's head a bit more in that way, as in "right, we backed you, you've got the squad you wanted, now go and deliver" - although maybe that's their objective these days? Is there any way they could be that clever? Things don't go too well then they are always the ones who get the blame, hence less pressure on the manager and players, "well we could have come 9th if we'd replaced Carroll"... Might be giving them a bit much credit to consider them pulling a Mourinho on everyone though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "Best isn't good enough" Nice tagline from Young there Way to put words in Pardew's mouth Pardew finding it hard to keep a lid on his frustration with the board there tbf. Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 As strong as could have been without going ott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 As strong as could have been without getting sacked Fyp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "Best isn't good enough" Nice tagline from Young there Pathetic really, was expecting at least some comment that could be loosely linked after but nope, just a childish personal dig. Looks like this puppet may grow into a real boy one day, quite surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "Best isn't good enough" Nice tagline from Young there Pathetic really, was expecting at least some comment that could be loosely linked after but nope, just a childish personal dig. Looks like this puppet may grow into a real boy one day, quite surprised. It's just a relatively clever pun, that's all. Nowt to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "They wouldn’t do a loan or a short-term fix, whereas I would have liked to. I had a couple of options that I thought would have worked for us but it has to work for them" Thank God for no Macheda etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "Best isn't good enough" Nice tagline from Young there Pathetic really, was expecting at least some comment that could be loosely linked after but nope, just a childish personal dig. Looks like this puppet may grow into a real boy one day, quite surprised. It's just a relatively clever pun, that's all. Nowt to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 MsiDouglas Mark Douglas Perhaps the most interesting point Pardew made today was that by 6pm on deadline day he knew he wouldn't get a striker... #ruizbid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Aye. They must be a nightmare to work under at times, but he knew what he was getting into. I just can't wrap my head around a bloke who apparently loves a gamble/splurge in his personal life refusing to even budge a little bit with the football club that he owns. I'm not saying go crazy or anything, but you surely cannot be so fucking rigid with everything all of the time. They could have compromised on one of the many deals that were mooted and saw us with a striker at the end of it. Just hope the squad see us through another spell, like they pretty much did for the entirety of last season. Regarding the bit in bold: He said very clearly after the shitstorm post Keegan that while he had been willing to put in £20m every season, that would no longer happen, the club now had to look after itself until he could find a buyer. That £20m was his gambling money as you put it, and I guess it may take a while (if he remains the owner) before he gets back to the point that he feels something for the club enough to stick in his own chips again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Fair play to him, been honest for a change and largely points the finger. He is right, we need to move on and concentrate on results now. I think it is very obvious that he and the fans are pissed off, perhaps the board are finally getting the message as well. We can only hope. 3 points on Monday and a big push up to January please.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Pardew says he understands fans who are disgruntled after being told Carroll would not be sold, before then seeing hopes of a replacement dashed after a seven-month search. When pressed on the situation, Pardew – who kept a cool head at his Press conference ahead of the QPR game – told the Chronicle: “The people who feel let down are the fans. “They pay their money and they feel what they are being promised is not being fulfilled. I think from that point of view, all I can say is that Derek (Llambias) will be giving some financial news. “The money that we got from Andy is going back into the club, but obviously a big chunk of it hasn’t been spent yet.†Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 DL : " The extra interest we have gained on the money, by off-shooting the signing of a striker to January, has paid for a new helipad at the training ground" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Llambias is a shit eugene levy and I hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I'm not really sure how Pardew has become "a target for abuse". Yeah, he's a bit of a gobshite, but he's being let down by those above him. I don't know any fan who blames him for the transfer debacle - everyone knows it was down to MA/DL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I think and hope any anger towards Pardew now has faded away. He went as far as contractually possible in divulging his feelings in the boards inability to get a striker over the line. He has only lost a handful of games since his appointment 10 months ago. I think he is doing a great job and am so happy he is our manager when I think if the alternatives that could have cone through the door Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I think and hope any anger towards Pardew now has faded away. He went as far as contractually possible in divulging his feelings in the boards inability to get a striker over the line. He has only lost a handful of games since his appointment 10 months ago. I think he is doing a great job and am so happy he is our manager when I think if the alternatives that could have cone through the door He's lost almost two hands full, he's won one more than he's lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I think and hope any anger towards Pardew now has faded away. He went as far as contractually possible in divulging his feelings in the boards inability to get a striker over the line. He has only lost a handful of games since his appointment 10 months ago. I think he is doing a great job and am so happy he is our manager when I think if the alternatives that could have cone through the door I regard him now as I did when he came here. I'm not particularly concerned about his relationship with Mike or Dekka. I'm more interested in how he uses the resources available to him which is all we can judge him on at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Yet again, Pardew seems to be playing this game of running with the hare and riding with the hounds. If he feels that he's not being properly supported, he should quit. If he still trusts what he's being told, then he should stop trying to curry favour with the fans by this sort of 'hey, I know how you feel' type statement. He was quoted in the Times yesterday as saying that it was mistake for him to say that the club were '100 per cent' guaranteed to sign a striker - 'It's important that I put pressure (on the board) in any way I can. There was a little bit of that involved. I can say that publicly. But I still feel the enthusiasm we have generated at the start of the season has gone with the signing not coming in'. Well a) what are we to make of future statements by Pardew if he's admitted that he's been exaggerating the position in order to use pressure from the fans to force the board's hand? How can we trust what he's saying? and b) by creating this fuss over signing one striker rather than two (which is the reality of the situation), hasn't he played some part in any loss of enthusiasm? How exactly do the existing strikers (particularly Ba) feel about these very public votes of no-confidence? That's unless the 'loss of enthusiasm' bit is just more bullshit in order to put pressure on the board to deliver next time, which is a tactic he has admitted to employing. I think Pardew's judgement of football matters is very sound, but I wasn't completely surprised to read an earlier post that he fell out with some West Ham players, who considered him two-faced. Nolan gave a hint of that when it emerged that he was disappointed that Pardew didn't fight very hard to keep him, despite earlier statements about how valuable he was to the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Yet again, Pardew seems to be playing this game of running with the hare and riding with the hounds. If he feels that he's not being properly supported, he should quit. If he still trusts what he's being told, then he should stop trying to curry favour with the fans by this sort of 'hey, I know how you feel' type statement. He was quoted in the Times yesterday as saying that it was mistake for him to say that the club were '100 per cent' guaranteed to sign a striker - 'It's important that I put pressure (on the board) in any way I can. There was a little bit of that involved. I can say that publicly. But I still feel the enthusiasm we have generated at the start of the season has gone with the signing not coming in'. Well a) what are we to make of future statements by Pardew if he's admitted that he's been exaggerating the position in order to use pressure from the fans to force the board's hand? How can we trust what he's saying? and b) by creating this fuss over signing one striker rather than two (which is the reality of the situation), hasn't he played some part in any loss of enthusiasm? How exactly do the existing strikers (particularly Ba) feel about these very public votes of no-confidence? That's unless the 'loss of enthusiasm' bit is just more bullshit in order to put pressure on the board to deliver next time, which is a tactic he has admitted to employing. I think Pardew's judgement of football matters is very sound, but I wasn't completely surprised to read an earlier post that he fell out with some West Ham players, who considered him two-faced. Nolan gave a hint of that when it emerged that he was disappointed that Pardew didn't fight very hard to keep him, despite earlier statements about how valuable he was to the side. I just stopped reading there. So f***ing idiotic. Give over, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I am perplexed by some of the double standards on here like - if everyone quit their job every time their arsehole boss screwed them over the unemployment rate would be through the roof - I for one wouldn't have lasted more than 5 minutes in most of my jobs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Yet again, Pardew seems to be playing this game of running with the hare and riding with the hounds. If he feels that he's not being properly supported, he should quit. If he still trusts what he's being told, then he should stop trying to curry favour with the fans by this sort of 'hey, I know how you feel' type statement. He was quoted in the Times yesterday as saying that it was mistake for him to say that the club were '100 per cent' guaranteed to sign a striker - 'It's important that I put pressure (on the board) in any way I can. There was a little bit of that involved. I can say that publicly. But I still feel the enthusiasm we have generated at the start of the season has gone with the signing not coming in'. Well a) what are we to make of future statements by Pardew if he's admitted that he's been exaggerating the position in order to use pressure from the fans to force the board's hand? How can we trust what he's saying? and b) by creating this fuss over signing one striker rather than two (which is the reality of the situation), hasn't he played some part in any loss of enthusiasm? How exactly do the existing strikers (particularly Ba) feel about these very public votes of no-confidence? That's unless the 'loss of enthusiasm' bit is just more bullshit in order to put pressure on the board to deliver next time, which is a tactic he has admitted to employing. I think Pardew's judgement of football matters is very sound, but I wasn't completely surprised to read an earlier post that he fell out with some West Ham players, who considered him two-faced. Nolan gave a hint of that when it emerged that he was disappointed that Pardew didn't fight very hard to keep him, despite earlier statements about how valuable he was to the side. I would agree that Pardew needs to stop playing the double game, but to suggest he should quit is a bit much. Maybe he should learn to reign in his patter though. The gushing praise of Barton while the player himself was taking potshots at the clubs owners was a dangerous game, and it gives the impression that everyone isn't pulling in the same direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Latest pile of drivel from PRdew http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/09/10/alan-pardew-sets-newcastle-strikers-a-challenge-61634-29395371/ Alan Pardew sets Newcastle strikers a challenge * by Mark Douglas, The Journal * Sep 10 2011 ALAN Pardew has challenged his pack of strikers to prove him wrong – as he predicts more to come from Demba Ba and Leon Best. The United boss spent most of the summer hammering home the point to all and sundry that Newcastle needed a proven hitman to shoulder the Premier League goalscoring burden – but having seen the board’s efforts come to nothing, he is now concentrating on the strikers he has got. Shola Ameobi, Peter Lovenkrands and Leon Best have proved reliable to Pardew in the past, and he will send them out again during the winter months with the aim of securing their own role in his plans beyond January. There is also an expectation that Demba Ba will step up following the end of the holy month of Ramadan, during which the striker was fasting. Having seen Best step up and score twice against Fulham, he knows that there are goals to be squeezed out of a forward line that managed to score 22 goals for Newcastle between them last year. Ba’s seven goals for West Ham following a January switch from Hoffenheim should also be taken into account. Pardew said: “There are some roles up for grabs here. When Shola has played for me, he has done terrific, and the same is true of Peter Lovenkrands and Leon Best. “So between the three of them, there is a lot of competition. And Ba is coming in as well. When you start saying their names and what they have done for me, they’ve all done very well. “I’ve got to make sure that hunger stays there and that someone in that group gets us the goals we’re going to need.†Ba has struggled for sharpness since his summer move from West Ham but Pardew feels that brighter days are over the horizon for the Senegal striker. Not much has been made of Ba’s fasting, which is something that Pardew was reticent to discuss in public even if he felt it might have had an effect on his summer signing. “It’s not that I haven’t been prepared to talk about anything, I just feel that some issues are personal and that’s a religious thing they have to go through,†he said. “As far as their performance levels are concerned, it is going to have some impact, there’s no doubt about it, but they’re through that now. “And, especially with a striker like Demba is, that sharpness is very, very important and I think he’s lacked that a little bit. “Once he gets that back and it won’t take him long, he’s going to be a very good player for us.†The fall-out from United’s failure to land a striker continues to be felt, with the Newcastle board agreeing to answer 14 pertinent questions set by our sister title, the Chronicle. Those answers will be published today as United open up a new front of communication that will prompt hopes that future dialogue will be forthcoming. Such black and white optimism has frequently been dashed but at least it is a sign that the board are acknowledging the concerns generated among supporters by the failure to re-invest the £35m Andy Carroll windfall on a new forward. In the meantime it is up to Pardew to recapture the momentum lost by the transfer window failings. To that extent he will look to the returning Hatem Ben Arfa (pictured left) to excite supporters – with Pardew already sounding upbeat noises on the potential for the France international to make an immediate impact. The United boss was considering deploying Ben Arfa in a deep-lying ‘second striker’ role before the sickening pre-season injury suffered in the States, and there is every chance that he will reprise that when he returns in mid-September. Pardew said: “Ben Arfa is going to come into contention for this team, probably towards the end of September. We need to make sure he is right when he comes back.†Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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