TaylorJ_01 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Antonio Valencia is probably around 163% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Isnt the league average about 23% or did i imagine hearing that? Sure they were saying Liverpool had put most in and had the worst overall record the other day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Pardew likes balance He is traditional in his insistence of playing a right footer right side and a left footer left. JG is both really as most of his crosses are left footed and his work rate makes him undroppable. Pardew knows HBA is better but wont change his thoughts. This is why RT and GO are ahead! I expect if fit to see a midfield of RT CT YC and JG for the remainder of the season 95% of his crosses are fucking dreadful. 21,25% completion rate with his crossing (17/80). Better than I thought tbh. Would be interesting to see how that compares with other wide players in the league. Can't imagine it ever gets much above 30%. Seb Larsson 28% (54/192) Pennant 30% (51/170) Mata 25,6% (43/168) Nani 21,4% (39/182) Barton 25,5% (33/129) Bale 29,1% (35/120) Downing 22,9% (33/144) Ryan Taylor 26,1% (23/88) Ben Arfa 8% (1/12) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Pardew likes balance He is traditional in his insistence of playing a right footer right side and a left footer left. JG is both really as most of his crosses are left footed and his work rate makes him undroppable. Pardew knows HBA is better but wont change his thoughts. This is why RT and GO are ahead! I expect if fit to see a midfield of RT CT YC and JG for the remainder of the season 95% of his crosses are f***ing dreadful. 21,25% completion rate with his crossing (17/80). Better than I thought tbh. Would be interesting to see how that compares with other wide players in the league. Can't imagine it ever gets much above 30%. leads back to the oft slagging off of both jonas and obertan though, quite often the crowd are yelling at them to sling it in but there instincts are saying "no, we have one player in there and 4 defenders" which they don't help as they don't get in there at the back post when the ball comes down their opposite side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is just completion rate though right? So someone getting on the end of it? There's a hell of a lot of a difference between Jonas's style of crossing and someone like Valencia or Ben Arfa. I'd take one really good cross out of ten everytime over 4 floaty average out of ten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is just completion rate though right? So someone getting on the end of it? There's a hell of a lot of a difference between Jonas's style of crossing and someone like Valencia or Ben Arfa. I'd take one really good cross out of ten everytime over 4 floaty average out of ten Yep, just completion rate. Valencia by the way has a 25,5% completion rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Even amongst the wealth of totally pointless football statistics, a crossing percentage has got to be up there as the most utterly meaningless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I remember Enrique against Blackburn, he must have put in 5 world class crosses in the first half but none of our Strikers managed to get to them (except 1 I think). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I remember Enrique against Blackburn, he must have put in 5 world class crosses in the first half but none of our Strikers managed to get to them (except 1 I think). Shame he didnt do 5 shite crosses that fell on the heads/feet of our strikers, we might not have drawn 0-0 that day then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 "Chris Hughton was a lovely fella. I never heard him raise his voice once. Everyone was sad when he left and I told Alan Pardew when he came that he had a tough act to follow. "But Alan has done fantastic. I get on with him really well, he is always having a crack with me. "Last week I walked into his office and he was on the phone and he said 'I'm going to have to go, someone important has come in'. I looked around wondering who he meant and then realised he was talking about me. "One day he said he had a cold so he couldn't come anywhere near me and I said don't be daft. I grabbed hold of him and gave him a cuddle. Mind you, I did get a cold later. "He has done really well as manager, except for the Spurs game but everyone has a blip." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Pardew likes balance He is traditional in his insistence of playing a right footer right side and a left footer left. JG is both really as most of his crosses are left footed and his work rate makes him undroppable. Pardew knows HBA is better but wont change his thoughts. This is why RT and GO are ahead! I expect if fit to see a midfield of RT CT YC and JG for the remainder of the season this post is drunk and on drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 "Chris Hughton was a lovely fella. I never heard him raise his voice once. Everyone was sad when he left and I told Alan Pardew when he came that he had a tough act to follow. "But Alan has done fantastic. I get on with him really well, he is always having a crack with me. "Last week I walked into his office and he was on the phone and he said 'I'm going to have to go, someone important has come in'. I looked around wondering who he meant and then realised he was talking about me. "One day he said he had a cold so he couldn't come anywhere near me and I said don't be daft. I grabbed hold of him and gave him a cuddle. Mind you, I did get a cold later. "He has done really well as manager, except for the Spurs game but everyone has a blip." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Again, I'd look to replace him in the summer. I don't have any names but someone with tactical nous and footballing philosophies would help for me, the most talented side we've had since Sir Bobby's days, massively, especially from a performance point of view. I've heard it all now like, that's insane. Replace Pardew in the summer, after possibly our best finish in recent memory? And replace him with who exactly? Fabio Capello's available I suppose. If we can get someone with a good proven record and has led teams into the top 4 consistently, why not? Always found it strange why at most clubs, the players are paid much more than the manager. Since the brain of the team,fitness and moral starts from the manager doesnt it make more sense to pay your CEO? Always found this quite baffling in football. Dont quote me for sacking Pardew please, i just think if there is some chance of someone better that is willing coach, leave transfers to the management and most importantly could collaborate with team. Btw personally i Think Pardew has earned himself another season to prove himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 "Chris Hughton was a lovely fella. I never heard him raise his voice once. Everyone was sad when he left and I told Alan Pardew when he came that he had a tough act to follow. "But Alan has done fantastic. I get on with him really well, he is always having a crack with me. "Last week I walked into his office and he was on the phone and he said 'I'm going to have to go, someone important has come in'. I looked around wondering who he meant and then realised he was talking about me. "One day he said he had a cold so he couldn't come anywhere near me and I said don't be daft. I grabbed hold of him and gave him a cuddle. Mind you, I did get a cold later. "He has done really well as manager, except for the Spurs game but everyone has a blip." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think there's anyone out there that would work under Ashley, and be better than Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think there's anyone out there that would work under Ashley, and be better than Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think there's anyone out there that would work under Ashley, and be better than Pardew. Hard to base things on assumptions. Well not like agents have been offering any managers to you to keep you in the know or the club is telling you who they are tapping up. Just like players, Managers are also about timing and opportunities , good ones are only usually out of work for short periods, probably hotter commodities than players in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Again, I'd look to replace him in the summer. I don't have any names but someone with tactical nous and footballing philosophies would help for me, the most talented side we've had since Sir Bobby's days, massively, especially from a performance point of view. I've heard it all now like, that's insane. Replace Pardew in the summer, after possibly our best finish in recent memory? And replace him with who exactly? Fabio Capello's available I suppose. If we can get someone with a good proven record and has led teams into the top 4 consistently, why not? Always found it strange why at most clubs, the players are paid much more than the manager. Since the brain of the team,fitness and moral starts from the manager doesnt it make more sense to pay your CEO? Always found this quite baffling in football. Dont quote me for sacking Pardew please, i just think if there is some chance of someone better that is willing coach, leave transfers to the management and most importantly could collaborate with team. Btw personally i Think Pardew has earned himself another season to prove himself. Pardew has earned another season to prove himself? Am I actually reading that correctly? You make it sound like we are battling away in 12th position. We are ONE POINT off fourth place. What did you expect? A title challenge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think there's anyone out there that would work under Ashley, and be better than Pardew. similar was said about Hughton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I genuinely don't think there's anyone out there that would work under Ashley, and be better than Pardew. similar was said about Hughton Don't think there are any other managers that owe Ashley quite a few $$$ in betting debts mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I remember Enrique against Blackburn, he must have put in 5 world class crosses in the first half but none of our Strikers managed to get to them (except 1 I think). Shame he didnt do 5 shite crosses that fell on the heads/feet of our strikers, we might not have drawn 0-0 that day then. You do realise Peter Lovenkrands was up top that day, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Fwiw I think there'd be countless managers who COULD do a better job than Pardew who'd be willing to do the job mind, especially if we continue to bring in players like Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Santon, Cisse etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I remember Enrique against Blackburn, he must have put in 5 world class crosses in the first half but none of our Strikers managed to get to them (except 1 I think). Shame he didnt do 5 shite crosses that fell on the heads/feet of our strikers, we might not have drawn 0-0 that day then. You do realise Peter Lovenkrands was up top that day, don't you? Yeah but 5 chances falling on top of him is a chance one will accidentally go in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Again, I'd look to replace him in the summer. I don't have any names but someone with tactical nous and footballing philosophies would help for me, the most talented side we've had since Sir Bobby's days, massively, especially from a performance point of view. I've heard it all now like, that's insane. Replace Pardew in the summer, after possibly our best finish in recent memory? And replace him with who exactly? Fabio Capello's available I suppose. If we can get someone with a good proven record and has led teams into the top 4 consistently, why not? Always found it strange why at most clubs, the players are paid much more than the manager. Since the brain of the team,fitness and moral starts from the manager doesnt it make more sense to pay your CEO? Always found this quite baffling in football. Dont quote me for sacking Pardew please, i just think if there is some chance of someone better that is willing coach, leave transfers to the management and most importantly could collaborate with team. Btw personally i Think Pardew has earned himself another season to prove himself. Pardew has earned another season to prove himself? Am I actually reading that correctly? You make it sound like we are battling away in 12th position. We are ONE POINT off fourth place. What did you expect? A title challenge? Do you ever watch football? All this nonsense of being couple of points from 4th but there is still 1/3 of the season to go. What if we slide and end 12th or something? Funny how some could assume we can keep top 7 while not looking at the performances on the pitch. Great to look at numbers and Stats but isnt how we fundamentally get those numbers and stats more of reality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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