Interpolic Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Is that Lawro's prediction for the Man City match at the bottom there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It's really impressive when you see it like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It's really impressive when you see it like that Aye, that's why I did it. dem greens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Pardew has done an absolute phenomenal job this season. It shouldn't be underestimated. Yes at times we've disagreed with some of the decisions he's made. For me the biggest was leaving HBA out of the team for so much of the season. But the man has got the results on a consistent basis all season long. Whatever happens over the last few games, he should be the Manager of the year, if he was at a London club I'm sure he would be anointed already. Thank god that this is only really his first season back in the prem after a sketchy career at other clubs, because right now, I have no doubt that he's the best English manager out there and England have an opening at the moment. I laugh when other fans call us two faced for liking Pards now when well all hated him when he was appointed. It would have been two faced had we all said we loved the appointment at the time, we didn't, no one thought he was going to be an upgrade on Houghton, but he's proved us all wrong and won everyone over. TBH I wouldn't want anyone else managing our club right now. Thanks Pards for a truely amazing season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well 3-0 to Chelsea was a travesty of a result tbh. Flattered them massively and one of the few times I can remember the team losing 3-0 and pretty much getting cheered off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Definitely, Luiz decision was a shocker and those two goals came when we had 10 men and no defenders. Not too ridiculous to say we'd have got something from both games had we had simple depth available at CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well 3-0 to Chelsea was a travesty of a result tbh. Flattered them massively. it did but weirdly sturridge had that much space in good positions they could've had 5. weird weird game that one was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 10 straight unbeaten games at home. My criticism for Pardew was and I still think is justified for the way he set up our team couple of months back. However, ever since integrating Ben Arfa into the team and making it a more fluid system we have really been on a roll and all praise has to go to Alan for that. Couldnt dream of being where even 4weeks ago. Been really great to watch us since March. I guess every team hits a rough patch somewhere, and we seem to grow even stronger from rough patches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well 3-0 to Chelsea was a travesty of a result tbh. Flattered them massively. it did but weirdly sturridge had that much space in good positions they could've had 5. weird weird game that one was. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well 3-0 to Chelsea was a travesty of a result tbh. Flattered them massively and one of the few times I can remember the team losing 3-0 and pretty much getting cheered off. Along with Luiz staying on, we had absolutely no luck in that game at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 We only lost 2 out of 11 home games under Pardew last season, so that's 4 losses out of 29 at home since he came in. Impressive stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well 3-0 to Chelsea was a travesty of a result tbh. Flattered them massively and one of the few times I can remember the team losing 3-0 and pretty much getting cheered off. Along with Luiz staying on, we had absolutely no luck in that game at all. and we were still in it till the 90th minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 To win by 3 goals flattered Chelsea like, but we were lucky they didn't score more. I think both sides hit the woodword 3-4 times each I hope Sturridge doesn't play at the bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Those Chelsea and West Brom games could have gone another way as well 3-0 to Chelsea was a travesty of a result tbh. Flattered them massively and one of the few times I can remember the team losing 3-0 and pretty much getting cheered off. Along with Luiz staying on, we had absolutely no luck in that game at all. and we were still in it till the 90th minute. Aye, felt so frustrated after that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 To win by 3 goals flattered Chelsea like, but we were lucky they didn't score more. I think both sides hit the woodword 3-4 times each I hope Sturridge doesn't play at the bridge. Krul saved a pen as well. I think Santon would defend better against Sturridge than Raylor did that day. And IIRC, Jonas didn't play that day and didn't give that extra cover that Raylor needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 pardew's done a great job this season, and i don't think there was ever a time this season where he was doing poorly at all. but every manager has their decisions scrutinised, including alex ferguson and his team is sitting atop the premiership table at the minute. the forum may as well shut down if we ever reach the day where we do not approve of discussing the ins and outs of what a manager is doing. the thing is there's a difference between pointed criticism, tactical suggestions and analysis, and blind dislike or wanting someone sacked. 95% of the critical discussion this season - whether it's been about playing obertan, hoofing it up to best, utlising cisse as a targetman vs the mackems, not getting cabaye and tiote to gel etc have fitted the former category. as have the opposite opinions when he does something special that deserves praise, whether it be grinding out results when we're not playing well, shifting to a 4-3-3, making colo captain, or bringing in great players. some excellent debates have been had in this very thread on the above subjects this season. it's a tiny minority in the 5% who went too far and acted like idiots - and i include HTT in that. the past few games have turned our season from a good one where we've formed a great squad and overachieved slightly, to a superb one with a great squad that has overachieved massively. if we maintain this position he deserves to be up there with robson and keegan imo. unlike keegan he might not have a set philosophy in terms of playing style, but he's perhaps a bit more like robson, a pragmatist who takes each game as it comes. Spot on as usual. There have been a lot of valid criticisms and discussion points, it never got daft barring a very few exceptions. In fact I actually think this has been one of the best threads this season because nearly all of the content was well balanced and argued. Despite our results and position, Pardew had questions asked about his selections, tactics and style of play (some of which were prompted by his own comments in the media) and he has answered them emphatically in the run-in. Dunno why some are so preoccupied with point-scoring. I think you're underplaying the level of criticism he was getting at times. You only have to go back to the Norwich game we won & Cisse missed two sitters in: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,72878.21275.html You can count 4 or 5 different people suggesting he shouldnt even be our manager within the first 3 pages after a game we won to keep us in 6th man. It was ludicrous stuff. Only a few of us were actually backing him up at that point, the majority were not. The media will take any excuse to raise the idea of discontentment amongst our fans, let alone when we're doing well. If the criticism had gotten stronger & been held by more, you dont think that could have affected our season? I think it could have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Chelsea would never have created many of those chances if they were down to 10 men as they should rightly have been. Not that it matters now mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 To win by 3 goals flattered Chelsea like, but we were lucky they didn't score more. I think both sides hit the woodword 3-4 times each I hope Sturridge doesn't play at the bridge. Krul saved a pen as well. I think Santon would defend better against Sturridge than Raylor did that day. And IIRC, Jonas didn't play that day and didn't give that extra cover that Raylor needs. Lovenkrands offered zero protection to Raylor that day, though Raylor was 'raped' by Sturridge that day mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Chelsea would never have created many of those chances if they were down to 10 men as they should rightly have been. Not that it matters now mind. Not sure how its relevant anyway, both sides are completely different now, to what they were then..... We play a completely different system, players confident and in form..... theres no reason why we cant go there and get something. and if we do Chelsea will be practically out of the race for 4th and then only spurs would be left and considering they are sinking faster than the titanic they might be out of it too or atleast close to be out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 pardew's done a great job this season, and i don't think there was ever a time this season where he was doing poorly at all. but every manager has their decisions scrutinised, including alex ferguson and his team is sitting atop the premiership table at the minute. the forum may as well shut down if we ever reach the day where we do not approve of discussing the ins and outs of what a manager is doing. the thing is there's a difference between pointed criticism, tactical suggestions and analysis, and blind dislike or wanting someone sacked. 95% of the critical discussion this season - whether it's been about playing obertan, hoofing it up to best, utlising cisse as a targetman vs the mackems, not getting cabaye and tiote to gel etc have fitted the former category. as have the opposite opinions when he does something special that deserves praise, whether it be grinding out results when we're not playing well, shifting to a 4-3-3, making colo captain, or bringing in great players. some excellent debates have been had in this very thread on the above subjects this season. it's a tiny minority in the 5% who went too far and acted like idiots - and i include HTT in that. the past few games have turned our season from a good one where we've formed a great squad and overachieved slightly, to a superb one with a great squad that has overachieved massively. if we maintain this position he deserves to be up there with robson and keegan imo. unlike keegan he might not have a set philosophy in terms of playing style, but he's perhaps a bit more like robson, a pragmatist who takes each game as it comes. Spot on as usual. There have been a lot of valid criticisms and discussion points, it never got daft barring a very few exceptions. In fact I actually think this has been one of the best threads this season because nearly all of the content was well balanced and argued. Despite our results and position, Pardew had questions asked about his selections, tactics and style of play (some of which were prompted by his own comments in the media) and he has answered them emphatically in the run-in. Dunno why some are so preoccupied with point-scoring. I think you're underplaying the level of criticism he was getting at times. You only have to go back to the Norwich game we won & Cisse missed two sitters in: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,72878.21275.html You can count 4 or 5 different people suggesting he shouldnt even be our manager within the first 3 pages after a game we won to keep us in 6th man. It was ludicrous stuff. Only a few of us were actually backing him up at that point, the majority were not. The media will take any excuse to raise the idea of discontentment amongst our fans, let alone when we're doing well. If the criticism had gotten stronger & been held by more, you dont think that could have affected our season? I think it could have. Woah, 4 or 5 people suggesting stuff. How harsh. We were fucking awful in that game, that's a fact. At no point were people seriously calling for him to be sacked, and that includes at the ground. There's also a post from you suggesting we can't play football with Williamson in the side btw and that 'Its got nowt to do with Pardew'. I guess it's nowt to do with Pardew that we've played some brilliant stuff in the last few games with the same players on the park then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Coloccini went off injured very early that game.. only for an out of form Perch to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Just remembered Redknapp's mockery when Pardew counted himself out of the running for the England job, would make it even sweeter if we finished above Spurs. Well tbf it's just fantastic that we've got Redknapp scared to death regardless of whether we finish 4th or not. It's Sugar I remember piping up with similar mockery, when all Pardew was doing was answering questions the press had asked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Chelsea would never have created many of those chances if they were down to 10 men as they should rightly have been. Not that it matters now mind. Not sure how its relevant anyway, both sides are completely different now, to what they were then..... We play a completely different system, players confident and in form..... theres no reason why we cant go there and get something. and if we do Chelsea will be practically out of the race for 4th and then only spurs would be left and considering they are sinking faster than the titanic they might be out of it too or atleast close to be out of it. True, two very different teams now, seeing as they have the FA Cup 3 days later they may field a weaker team, and with us playing so well too, fielding a weaker team might matter anyway, were mint at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Only a few of us were actually backing him up at that point, the majority were not. The media will take any excuse to raise the idea of discontentment amongst our fans, let alone when we're doing well. If the criticism had gotten stronger & been held by more, you dont think that could have affected our season? I think it could have. Are you suggesting that you and your merry band held our season together by sticking your heads in the sand ? I've heard it all now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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