Guest BooBoo Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Last season from the two other promoted clubs, we'd been beaten twice by Christmas. In my years following NUFC we are generally always are a sucker for the hyped up promoted sides. Some of the criticism of Pardew is justified, but it's a point gained overall. We would have certainly lost this one, twelve months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Lets see what he does for the Villa game. Hughton had the sense after the Blackpool debacle to throw in Tioté andf Ben Arfa. Raylor and Shola out, Santon and Ba/Marveaux in. Has to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 He need to wake up. Do some changes and stop fucking a round with a 442 with Ameobi on top. I am sick of that shit. We was LUCKY to get a point today, nothing to do with Pardew, just fucking lucky... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hughton got grief for his decision making/subs, but he would have seen what needed to be changed tonight. Completely unacceptable from Pardew tonight, he better rectify it for the next match. You think? I think we've won and drawn games these last two weeks that we'd have drawn and lost last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Infostrada Sports: "It is 110 years since Newcastle opened a top flight season with back-to-back clean sheets in away matches. In 1901, they did not concede at Blackburn, at Everton and at Notts County." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Lets see what he does for the Villa game. Hughton had the sense after the Blackpool debacle to throw in Tioté andf Ben Arfa. Raylor and Shola out, Santon and Ba/Marveaux in. Has to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. Unbelievably short-sighted. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. 23/09/2007 - 5th place after beating West Ham 3-2. What happened after that again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I thought his substitutions were spot on as well tbh. Could have brought the last two on a bit earlier probably though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. Unbelievably short-sighted. Yeah we played badly. In fact we were awful. But - we got a point away from home against a team that will clearly be midtable or thereabouts come the end of the season. Decent result even if it was a crap performance. But - we are unbeaten. We deserved a point vs Arsenal and our wins against Sunderland and Fulham. This is the only game so far where we have got more than our play merited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. 23/09/2007 - 5th place after beating West Ham 3-2. What happened after that again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I thought his substitutions were spot on as well tbh. Could have brought the last two on a bit earlier probably though. The timing of the substitutions is just as important as the personnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. Yeh, because if we keep playing like that and with no flexibility to change...we're going to stay fourth It's a good point away from home but that doesn't mean it's a performance to applaud. Because that is what I said?? That we would stay fourth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. Unbelievably short-sighted. Yeah we played badly. In fact we were awful. But - we got a point away from home against a team that will clearly be midtable or thereabouts come the end of the season. Decent result even if it was a crap performance. But - we are unbeaten. We deserved a point vs Arsenal and our wins against Sunderland and Fulham. This is the only game so far where we have got more than our play merited. Yep, that's what most (all?) are saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 One defeat in ten league games now. For any side in the league never mind us, that's brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Last season from the two other promoted clubs, we'd been beaten twice by Christmas. In my years following NUFC we are generally always are a sucker for the hyped up promoted sides. Some of the criticism of Pardew is justified, but it's a point gained overall. We would have certainly lost this one, twelve months ago. We would have lost this one if we hadn't cleared off the line twice or if that were capable of scoring goals. They haven't got one goal in 4 games for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yeah - fourth in the league and unbeaten. What a crap job Pardew is doing. 23/09/2007 - 5th place after beating West Ham 3-2. What happened after that again? It's alright - we are 4th this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Can't really complain whilst the results are still flowing. The problems and real test will come when the results start to dry up. You can, and you should. What more could we have done in these last four games like? Win them all? You're a lost cause sometimes, man. Howay then, explain. No one is complaining about the points on the board. To wait until the results are on a par with the performances before you acknowledge/pipe up that there are problems which require addressing is folly. While of course we are happy, we can't just be happy with the points and ignore everything else. We have to look into the future and realise we're not going to get away with it every time like we have tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'd like to see Marveaux in behind the striker in the Ben Arfa role. Very limited viewing of him but IMO he looks like he could play there. Cabaye and Tioté struggled today but half of the reason is the lack of movement and players infront of them inwhich to pass to. Shola and Best are two static and don't have the game to come deeper and link up play, so put somebody there that can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Amazed anybody actually expected any kind of performance from us in this type of game. Have you all just started watching Newcastle United? Would've taken a point beforehand and I'm pleased we managed to dig one out - even if we rode our luck. Pardew needs to fucking learn from his selection mistakes here though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 We are playing some awful football, I say playing, there seems to be nothing at all about our football. Fuck knows how we are 4th because all our performances have been rubbish to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Amazed anybody actually expected any kind of performance from us in this type of game. Have you all just started watching Newcastle United? Would've taken a point beforehand and I'm pleased we managed to dig one out - even if we rode our luck. Pardew needs to f***ing learn from his selection mistakes here though. This reminded me of Fulham away last season which we lost. For all the chances they made I don't remember Krul being particularly busy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Can't really complain whilst the results are still flowing. The problems and real test will come when the results start to dry up. You can, and you should. What more could we have done in these last four games like? Win them all? You're a lost cause sometimes, man. Howay then, explain. No one is complaining about the points on the board. To wait until the results are on a par with the performances before you acknowledge/pipe up that there are problems which require addressing is folly. While of course we are happy, we can't just be happy with the points and ignore everything else. We have to look into the future and realise we're not going to get away with it every time like we have tonight. Of course, I'm not saying we shouldn't. But this is the first time we've been like that in the league this season. Deserved our other wins and held our own in the Arsenal game - we've played really poorly once - it doesn't mean we're going to nosedive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 If we're looking to play Ben Arfa in a free role when be returns, we should already be looking to try this with the players that we've got. So I'd like to see Marveaux in the same role away at Villa, then he can also interchange with Obertan and Jonas. Although the way Obertan's playing, Sammy would be a better option at the moment. At least he's got some drive and is willing to run at people with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I thought his substitutions were spot on as well tbh. Could have brought the last two on a bit earlier probably though. Just stop it. Too little, too late. He didn't make the most urgent one either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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