Minhosa Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The gig's his man. 'Promote from within' 'pound for pound' if you turn up next season with him in charge you're a head case. Absolutely this. Anybody buying a ST next year is basically saying they are happy to be bummed by the regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 We start hounding him out from tomorrow. No if ands or buts. Get on his back from kickoff. This cunt is pardew mk II. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 We are absolutely f***ed to the high heavens if Ashley is delighted with 2 wins in 8. f*** sake. Willing to bet he doesn't give a single f*** as long as we're not in grave danger of going down. Just stay up, that's the remit, just stay exactly where we are and he'll be cush. Yeah, I totally and regrettably agree. However, we all know that 2 wins in 8 over a season is horrific relegation form. Surely even Ashley can understand that giving Carver the job full time for next season is an unavoidable disaster. Delighted FFS, it's pathetic. Sadly it isn't - he has 9 points from 8 games which over a season would be enough to stay up, which is all Ashley is interested in. I'm pretty certain the job is his now, barring some absolutely catastrophic results before the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If they appoint Carver, they are just going to create problems for themselves in the future. Is he seriously going to achieve a top 10 placing? I can only imagine us fighting relegation on a regular basis. If that is the case, then how will they continue to attract "talented" foreign players who they hope they can sell on for a profit. The club will have to change its recruitment policy because they currently do not sign the right players for a relegation battle. But I guess the short-term gain for the balance sheet is always more important than looking ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Van Gaal managed the Barcelona team famously beaten 3-2 in a Champions League fixture at St James’s Park in 1997 thanks to a Faustino Asprilla hat-trick. And his AZ Alkmaar side was defeated 4-2 on Tyneside a decade later, though Newcastle were knocked out of the UEFA Cup on away goals after the return leg. Carver said: “Hopefully, it’ll be third time lucky and he’ll lose again.” http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/daryl-janmaat-and-tim-krul-help-john-carver-plot-a-third-st-james-s-park-defeat-for-louis-van-gaal-1-7136759 That's not what third time lucky means ffs you thick cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Van Gaal managed the Barcelona team famously beaten 3-2 in a Champions League fixture at St James’s Park in 1997 thanks to a Faustino Asprilla hat-trick. And his AZ Alkmaar side was defeated 4-2 on Tyneside a decade later, though Newcastle were knocked out of the UEFA Cup on away goals after the return leg. Carver said: “Hopefully, it’ll be third time lucky and he’ll lose again.” http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/daryl-janmaat-and-tim-krul-help-john-carver-plot-a-third-st-james-s-park-defeat-for-louis-van-gaal-1-7136759 That's not what third time lucky means ffs you thick cunt. christ will they stop making him talk? please... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Its like a competition between him and Sherwood to see who can spout off the most in the media - Charver is becoming omnipresent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Van Gaal managed the Barcelona team famously beaten 3-2 in a Champions League fixture at St James’s Park in 1997 thanks to a Faustino Asprilla hat-trick. And his AZ Alkmaar side was defeated 4-2 on Tyneside a decade later, though Newcastle were knocked out of the UEFA Cup on away goals after the return leg. Carver said: “Hopefully, it’ll be third time lucky and he’ll lose again.” http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/daryl-janmaat-and-tim-krul-help-john-carver-plot-a-third-st-james-s-park-defeat-for-louis-van-gaal-1-7136759 That's not what third time lucky means ffs you thick c***. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Aye, it means the exact opposite of what he implies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Jesus wept! John Carver has to prove that he can improve Newcastle United - and the process starts now http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-prove-can-improve-8762991 Shared by the Newcastle Chronicle App iOS: http://bit.ly/chronicleapp Android: http://bit.ly/chronicleandroid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The biggest plus of getting rid of Pardew was meant to be no more wanting us to get beat, yet here I am petrified about the possibility of us getting a win tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In honesty I now want us to lose more than ever. Relegation seems to be the only end to this fucking torture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In honesty I now want us to lose more than ever. Relegation seems to be the only end to this fucking torture. Will it be better in the Championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah. Also we might really bottom out and get rid of Ashley in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In honesty I now want us to lose more than ever. Relegation seems to be the only end to this f***ing torture. Will it be better in the Championship? The year we spent down there was one of the most enjoyable in the last 15 years as a fan for me. Winning every week, playing some great football and away from the burning glare of the premiership it allowed us to take stock and focus on what was happening on the pitch. Halcyon days. Even if we went down and didn't come straight back up, would it be such a bad thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It wouldn't be such a bad thing, but that's not the same as wanting it to happen. Guess I would think differently if I thought there was any link between relegation and getting rid of Ashley, but I can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He makes less money. Less incentive to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It wouldn't be such a bad thing, but that's not the same as wanting it to happen. Guess I would think differently if I thought there was any link between relegation and getting rid of Ashley, but I can't see it. Surely the lack of financial incentive would be enough to force his hand though? No massive tv revenue, no large transfer fees to skim etc. The only two things that are gunna get him to sell up is a silly offer from a billionaire (which doesn't look likely) or a massive drop in revenue (relegation). The 2nd one is more likely. We could contribute to the drop in revenue by not attending but there's no appetite for it. For one I'm ashamed that our fanbase has demonstrated such apathy and a willingness to take it up the arse from Ashley. We should have stopped putting our arses on his seats and our money in his pocket a long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Maybe if we stayed down long-term or we went down to League One, but otherwise he would just buy promotion like last time and repeat the process. Unless he actually wants to sell of course, which would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In honesty I now want us to lose more than ever. Relegation seems to be the only end to this f***ing torture. Will it be better in the Championship? Under Ashley, probably yes - even this crowd should manage to be regular Top 6 in the Championship and as everyone knows, the only aim under Ashley is to finish Top 10 and get knocked out of the Cups... That is how far NUFC have fallen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In honesty I now want us to lose more than ever. Relegation seems to be the only end to this f***ing torture. Will it be better in the Championship? Under Ashley, probably yes - even this crowd should manage to be regular Top 6 in the Championship and as everyone knows, the only aim under Ashley is to finish Top 10 and get knocked out of the Cups... That is how far NUFC have fallen. Problem is, what's the point in winning every week in the Champ if your aim is just to get back up so you can return to the previous limbo? If you can ignore that bigger picture you may as well stay in the Prem. Assuming Ashley wouldn't sell up of course, if he would then grand, I would take relegation in a second for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It wouldn't be such a bad thing, but that's not the same as wanting it to happen. Guess I would think differently if I thought there was any link between relegation and getting rid of Ashley, but I can't see it. Aye, I can't see it either. I'm fucking sick of wanting us to lose. If it would make Ashley appoint a proper manager then fine, but it won't. We're stuck with Carver. It's grim but at the end of the day I prefer him to Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I fear there is a reason Ashley has said he is here till summer of 2016 minimum, that being that he is happy to stay for one season in the championship as long as we come back up, he would get the huge parachute payments after all. I think us being a yo-yo club would suit him nicely, selling a big star every now and then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I fear there is a reason Ashley has said he is here till summer of 2016 minimum, that being that he is happy to stay for one season in the championship as long as we come back up, he would get the huge parachute payments after all. I think us being a yo-yo club would suit him nicely, selling a big star every now and then. The parachutes are like 1/4 of what he would get by not going down. How would losing £75m every other year suit a tight arse like him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He obviously wants to stay up, but I don't think one relegation would be enough for him to suddenly sell up if he isn't planning to already. And even then he needs a buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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