afar Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I wish Carver worked zero hours. I think he does, there's certainly no evidence of anything productive coming from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 If they've decided on Carver why wouldn't they announce it to everyone though? Just in case the players switch off and just go through the motions. Results could suffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They're gutless man, wouldn't surprise me if they have appointed him permanently and won't even make an announcement over the summer. Its like the way they send players out on loan with appearance clauses instead of just selling them, they hope it will go through under the radar more and won't have to announce the sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They're gutless man, wouldn't surprise me if they have appointed him permanently and won't even make an announcement over the summer. Its like the way they send players out on loan with appearance clauses instead of just selling them, they hope it will go through under the radar more and won't have to announce the sale Unfortunately I think it'll be like this as well. Pre season will just continue on as normal with a few names being linked here and there and then in early August the club will send out a statement saying how well Carver has dealt with pre season and how well the new signings have settled in under his guidance and he'll get announced permanently then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 He's nailed on for the job. I've had a feeling since he was appointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 He's nailed on for the job. I've had a feeling since he was appointed. ive been saying since he got it- his performance will be judged as A survival this season B are we likely to survive next jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think the exact opposite if he was getting the job he would have it by now Newcastle will have a new umbrella stand in the dugout by the start of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They don't want to give people another reason not to renew their ST's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They don't want to give people another reason not to renew their ST's I think it may be getting near to the time when it's the opposite as I honestly think judging by people who I have talked to and have been season ticket holders for years, that there will be quite a big majority not renewing this time around (including some of the ones who actually went on Sunday). I think they need to give people a reason to renew - there will obviously be a lot still do but I'd be very surprised if crowds are not well below 40,000 next year if things don't change. Keeping Carver on will turn people away in their droves - as just about everyone not 20%, 40%, 50% or even 80% are against him and think he is a clown - I would say 99% if not more are. Even Ryder is saying now after the game on Sunday that he has probably blown any chance he had. People saying big crowds will keep continuing are forgetting the late 70s, 80's and early 90's when crowd levels dropped and this was when there were no sky tv or dodgy streams. The one thing that will guarantee a mass non renewal is Carver getting the job and you can all bookmark me on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Not you too Ferdinand, the club are killing my memories FFS: Newcastle legend Les Ferdinand has told the BBC that the current Magpies squad have 'downed tools' this season, whilst comparing manager John Carver's struggles to Tim Sherwood at Tottenham last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sherwood actually had a respectable win %. Not even comparable in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Has Ferdinand been sniffing glue or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sherwood actually had a respectable win %. Not even comparable in the slightest. Second to none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sherwood actually had a respectable win %. Not even comparable in the slightest. Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The only ex player speaking any sense is that rat faced money grabbing deserter Owen. I'm really disappointed in Ferdinand, being so involved in football still you'd think he had more knowledge than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 A decent piece by the Chronic for a change, they're playing with fire atm: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/newcastle-united-need-jurgen-klopp-9093223 Newcastle United will stay true to form with their next managerial appointment, but what they really need is a visionary who might dream big. Jurgen Klopp The ball spun out of play and into the matt black night air, to land close to Alan Pardew’s feet. Newcastle were beating Everton at St James’ Park, a few days after succumbing to another bruising derby defeat. Pardew caught it and threw it back in, but not before someone in the crowd called on the United manager to take the chains off his Newcastle team and “stop being negative”. Pardew turned around, shrugged and allowed his shoulders to drop. A few hours later he was to inform Lee Charnley that he wanted permission to leave Newcastle and talk to Crystal Palace about the job that had become available after Neil Warnock’s dismissal. The date was December 28. With the future of the club having careered towards a crossroads, Newcastle had been handed a golden opportunity by Pardew’s acknowledgement that he would never win over a growing band of doubters. A chance to energise a club in desperate need of reviving had presented itself but United’s reaction was, as they have done for much of Mike Ashley’s eight years, to turn inwards. John Carver presented an apparently safe pair of hands and Charnley was convinced of the logic of delaying the decision but the judgement call was incorrect. Handed a poisoned chalice – steadily toxified by a succession of decisions which have alienated supporters – Carver has become weaker by the week. What Newcastle needed – now, then and probably forever more under Ashley – was to be bold. In the week that one of the most fascinating and successful managers of his era has become available, we can reflect on the fact that Newcastle need their version of Jurgen Klopp. In days of yore, we might have speculated on Newcastle shooting for someone like Klopp. United was not a Utopia under its previous owners but there was a bravado and swagger about the club that would probably have led to at least a conversation about trying to lure the German to St James’ Park. If that chat has been had in the corridors of the famous old ground – and Skybet were offering a bewildering 12/1 on Klopp taking the reins at United – it would be a bigger shock than Kevin Keegan’s second coming. But as those who protested over the weekend were quick to remind us: there is plenty to sell about Newcastle, a project for a man with shoulders as broad as the river Tyne and an imagination to match. It might sound romantic to outsiders but the rich potential to be unlocked at St James’ Park – and the same goes for Sunderland, incidentally – might hold appeal to someone like Klopp. Borussia Dortmund coach Jurgen Klopp After all, it would be his second magic trick. For while Klopp leaves a Borussia Dortmund returned to their place among the European elite when he was hired, after nearly two decades at Mainz, the outlook was not quite so optimistic for one of Germany’s great clubs. As anyone who has experienced the might of the so-called Yellow Wall would testify, Dortmund are a special club. No club on the Continent, of course, boasts attendances to rival the 80,000 who cram into the Signal Iduna Park – and there is a rich and proud tradition of progressivism that goes back to the war era when Borussia’s president was removed from his post for his principled stand of refusing to join the Nazis. On-the-field, a mid-nineties renaissance that saw them summit European football with a Champions League win in 1997 had run out of steam when Klopp – urbane, forward-thinking and a calculated gamble – walked through the doors. Nearly bankrupt, they were a shadow of the club that we recognise now. Through tactical innovation, astute man-management, a commitment to progressive football and his own force of personality, the charismatic Klopp kick-started a revival. Two titles, a Champions League final and two runners-up in the Bundesliga later, the club is the envy of global football. Kevin Keegan couldn’t bring silverware to St James’ Park but he changed the Newcastle’s direction in a similar way to Klopp. United need someone like that. Part visionary and part revolutionary, it should be a job for someone who can tap into that rich vein of potential. Steve McClaren, to me, looks like the Moneyball option. He fits the model that has been assembled but that structure will probably not get Newcastle the Klopp-a-like they really need. Then again, these days the job on offer at United is pared down. The head coach will have a big say in recruitment but it will fall to Graham Carr and Charnley to help sift through the targets and this summer, whoever gets the job will be walking into a role where many of the big decisions have already been taken. Why would an ambitious man choose that role? Crystal Palace manager Alan Pardew before the Barclays Premier League match at the Stadium of Light, Sunderland. It will be a McClaren or a Pardew, flying high in the Premier League but who was incredibly lucky to land a job that his CV did not warrant. It should not be. There are clutches of interesting coaches out there in Europe: the technicolour Marcelo Bielsa, who has done a fine job at Marseille (although his current run-of-form is Pardew-esque). Thomas Tuchel, who will replace Klopp at Dortmund, is a fascinating and ambitious character who was available. Vincenzo Montella at Fiorentina, maybe? Christophe Galtier of St Etienne would have been an interesting choice. We don’t necessarily have to go abroad. How about Eddie Howe, the man recently handed the Football League manager of the decade award by Bournemouth? Swansea – famous for their sane managerial calls and a structured policy designed to bring in the right man – improved after identifying Garry Monk as a potential replacement for Brian Laudrup. It is about challenging yourself, embracing someone who might do things differently; listen and re-train the priorities of a football club that feels lost. An opportunity is slipping through Newcastle’s fingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 And i need a billion pounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 A decent piece by the Chronic for a change, they're playing with fire atm: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/newcastle-united-need-jurgen-klopp-9093223 When did Swansea replace Brian Laudrup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 That article is based around the false assumption that the management are in the slightest bit interested in anything more than PL survival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-unveil-head-coach-9091268?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Lol 2 candidates. Two. And 1 of them is John Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 top Bundesliga coach Lucien Favre interested in post John Carver and former England manager Steve McClaren are the only realistic contenders for the job at this moment in time. x a billion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-unveil-head-coach-9091268?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Lol 2 candidates. Two. the club are eager to avoid an additional complication of a protracted head coach search They have had time since January FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Don't believe a word of that article for a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Starting to plant the seeds for Carvers inevitable appointment, the backlash will be huge but doing it after the season is over prevents in game protests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 United will wait to see how Carver performs in the last few games before making a final decision #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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