Yohan Cabaye (now sporting coordinator at Paris Saint-Germain)

[David Icke - Son of God]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

[Yorkie]

I would say that it placates fans who are pissed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a fuck what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something.

 

Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored.

 

Well it's clearly not fucking working

 

Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim.

 

This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

 

Sometimes I think that, when so many people away from here don't get the dislike. But if someone were to ask me, genuinely, if I was totally honest - were my opinions of Pardew influenced by any agenda (for want of a better word) on this place, I'd honestly say no. It's a weird one, really. It still surprises me when I hear Newcastle fans not being pissed off about the same things that piss me off - to me they're so 'obvious'. But there you go, that's what it's all about.

[Guest n4e]

He's a better player than Matuidi and better than Verratti right now.

 

Yep, he'll get games for PSG and keep his place in the France team I'm sure of that. Wishful thinking people claiming he won't want to move now when he's in a good run of form for us.

[Guest bimpy474]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

 

If we dont buy a player this window, by the end of the season it'll be 18 months without buying a senior player.

 

Even if you dont sell anyone that would leave you behind everyone else. Standing still at best.

[Klaus]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

True, plus we know PSG are minted so wouldnt surprise me that we will milk them for every penny we can get.

[BottledDog]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

I'm sure you're right, the players we have bought and sold have consistently left the team considerably weaker. Pardew has been doing an astonishing job with the shit players hes been given.

[r0cafella]

I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something.

 

Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored.

 

Well it's clearly not f***ing working

 

Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim.

 

This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

 

[David Icke - Son of God]

I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something.

 

Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored.

 

Well it's clearly not f***ing working

 

Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim.

 

This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

[Guest bimpy474]

I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something.

 

Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored.

 

Well it's clearly not f***ing working

 

Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim.

 

This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

 

Well that's only 18% of people who are normal.

[Minhosa]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

 

Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums.

 

In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less.

[Ashley17]

It's been said a few times but the match going public have very different opinions to N-O, in my experience anyway

[Guest bimpy474]

This selling for top money has happened once. Until we do it again it's a one off so far.

[Minhosa]

Why does there always have to be a conspiracy?

 

What do we achieve by leaking the info that we flatly rejected a bid of £14 million? Surely that would only put clubs off who would then see our valuation as unrealistic.

 

Pretty standard practise isn't it? Notify other interested parties that one club has made roads to actually sign the player; try to start a bidding war.

 

If the bid was at all close to what the club know to value him at then I could see the logic. It's no where near what the club want though. I can't imagine it's got Arsenal, Man United etc. scrambling around looking for their cheque books worried that they're going to be beaten to his signature.

 

It's £4m more than they were gonna get in the summer. Nobody knows what their valuation is.

 

What this information will do imho will have Arsenal/Man Utd etc wondering if they 'just' bid £16m, would it be enough.

 

Then they'll be told someone else has already bid more.............they'll still think £18m is a bargain because all they've heard, read and been told all month is that he's worth £25m.

 

"What this information will do imho will have Arsenal/Man Utd etc wondering if they 'just' bid £16m, would it be enough."

 

I doubt it because...

 

"all they've heard, read and been told all month is that he's worth £25m."

 

I don't know what we would stand to gain from leaking the info. I can see what PSG get and why Cabaye and his agent would make it public but I don't think saying "hey, we've received a derisory offer for an unsettle player" does anything for NUFC.

 

YOU think it's derisory. Maybe they don't.

 

What's to say that they wouldn't take £15m and they are therefore making this 'bid' public in order to achieve that?

 

Why, if you'd take £15m for a player, would you reject a bid of £14m completely out of hand? I'm not a businessman but that makes no sense to me. It doesn't really send the right signals.

 

This is all speculative bullshit with absolutely no grounding in reality. All we know is a club made a bid for a player that they've been interested in for quite some time and we rejected it because it didn't come anywhere close to matching the public valuation we've placed on his head. It doesn't seem particularly difficult to understand nor does it seem particularly far-fetched.

 

There's still potentially 2 other cash rich runners in the race and the deadline is looming. Big factors I should think.

[Cajun]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

 

Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums.

 

In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less.

 

[r0cafella]

I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something.

 

Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored.

 

Well it's clearly not f***ing working

 

Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim.

 

This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

 

Because a poll of alleged Newcastle fans answers any of the criticisms levelled at Pardew. 

[BottledDog]

This selling for top money has happened once. Until we do it again it's a one off so far.

 

Because we don't tend to sell our top players?

[Minhosa]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

 

Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums.

 

In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less.

 

 

Which one went for more than they were worth?

[Mick]

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

 

I don't know a single person who rates him, not a single person at work or anybody I go to games with.

[Guest bimpy474]

This selling for top money has happened once. Until we do it again it's a one off so far.

 

Because we don't tend to sell our top players.

 

We would if big money was offered, Pardew always tells us everyone has a price. It's just those prices have not been met.

 

I must say this is one thing Ashley can be trusted (not in the traditional sense) on imo. We will only sell big. Although that is still a bit of conjecture until we sell another player, so far we have a pattern of one sale.

[buzza]

Come on, it's so obvious that they knew PSG or someone would be making a bid, otherwise why the hell would they be sniffing around Cabella as a replacement for 12M, we never spend that amount...

It will make the system slightly more attacking but without cabaye's goals and energy I do worry.

Still, anything north of 18 million pound is a good deal (for fatty )

[David Icke - Son of God]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

 

Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums.

 

In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less.

 

Given I can give you, that was a terrible deal, but the others we had our hands tied to some degree. Ba had his clause, Enrique was running his contract down, Beye was shot and we'd just been relegated, N'Zogbia had been acting like a massive fucking prick for quite some time and Perch, as much as I love the bloke, I'd hesitate to call him a 'star'.

 

I'm still fucking staggered Forster's turned into a decent goalkeeper as whenever I saw him he looked absolutely awful

[Ashley17]

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

 

I don't know a single person who rates him, not a single person at work or anybody I go to games with.

 

Unfortunately I have quite the opposite. I'd say 90% of the fans I know like him, say "it's obvious he cares", doing a good job, generally don't like HBA - honestly, it confuses the life out of me

[Guest bimpy474]

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

 

I don't know a single person who rates him, not a single person at work or anybody I go to games with.

 

Unfortunately I have quite the opposite. I'd say 90% of the fans I know like him, say "it's obvious he cares", doing a good job, generally don't like HBA - honestly, it confuses the life out of me

 

You need new friends, the one you got are fucking mental

[Dave]

I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something.

 

Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored.

 

Well it's clearly not f***ing working

 

Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim.

 

This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

 

 

Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/big-toon-survey-alan-pardew-6508505

Very happy (33.4%); Content (48.4%); Content but waiting for results to improve (7.5%); Unhappy (5.9%); Time for change (4.7%).

[Ashley17]

To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like.

 

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

 

Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums.

 

In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less.

 

Given I can give you, that was a terrible deal, but the others we had our hands tied to some degree. Ba had his clause, Enrique was running his contract down, Beye was shot and we'd just been relegated, N'Zogbia had been acting like a massive fucking prick for quite some time and Perch, as much as I love the bloke, I'd hesitate to call him a 'star'.

 

I'm still fucking staggered Forster's turned into a decent goalkeeper as whenever I saw him he looked absolutely awful

 

He's the same as he was - good shot stopper but useless with balls into the box. He gets very few of them in the Champions League and in the SPL he brings reading material. He's improved since he was in our academy but I don't think he's as good as is sometimes made out