Beren Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Still have no idea how he's going to find space in that team. Matuidi, Motta and Verratti are all good at what they do... nd in the summer the inevitable Pogba(Pjanic) bids will make it harder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Still have no idea how he's going to find space in that team. Matuidi, Motta and Verratti are all good at what they do... nd in the summer the inevitable Pogba(Pjanic) bids will make it harder This is why I wasn't sure it would happen. If Cabaye really is world class then it could be a great move for him, if not he could come to regret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If you would stop saying things like "that'll earn you respect on here I'm sure" then people probably wouldn't be so hostile Oh sorry, I'm the one saying unacceptable things. The spit roasting thing is all good aye? A fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzletooth Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Fair play to Ian W. The amount of s*** he takes for the amount of sense he talks is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Good post Minhosa, totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 RTG-esque in the way that people seem to think that if you say it enough, eventually it becomes true. Sadly that's the case with a lot of viewpoints. Maybe we should all come and join you in La La Land with Tinky Winky and Po, eh Ian? Ashley could turn up in the middle of the night with JFK and spit roast your Mrs and you'd come on here to say it could've been worse, Llambias could've been there too. f***ing hell, we get that people have differing views but to take them to the extreme every time just makes you look like you're on a wind up/craving attention. It's bordering on mental this like lads... what have I said to make you think I believe everything's great? Or that I love either Ashley or JFK? It's actually like my posts exist in a parallel universe where everybody has a frontal lobotomy before being allowed to read. Everything that's not an outpouring of hate is put down as 'being in la-la land'. Genuinely worrying that this is how people form opinions. Whatever the scenario, whatever the general temperament and whatever the downside you consistently seek to spin it into a positive Ian. That's great but you're constant desire to turn s*** news, s*** decisions and s*** management into acceptance of our overall position in the big wide world of football is f***ing nauseating. I'm a NUFC fan who wants my team to compete on every single level, who wont accept not trying in cups, who wont accept anything other than maximum effort to achieve the highest place finish possible with the squad available to us and who absolutely detests being told that we can't compete or we can't match other clubs who are 'bigger'. f*** that, what's the point? This is a simple game of best 11 Vs best 11 and with the right set up and application, we can give any team in the world a game. Do you think we were the biggest club in the world when KK arrived the first time? We were on the cusp of extinction and within a few short years we were an absolute powerhouse, all driven along by total commitment and effort from those running the club. I hang on to that feel good factor not because we nearly won a title but because everyone believed that we could achieve great things. Don't make the mistake of thinking football has changed which locks NUFC out. It doesn't. We've changed. We've allowed ourselves to float along to virtual non-existence. I don't ever recall people crying because AC Milan might want one of our stars. I remember laughing at s*** like that because we believed in the bigger picture, in the general direction of the club. I don't see why we can't achieve this now if the current owner applied himself and gave the football club and it's fans something to shout about. You continue to accept the current situation if you wish, but I'll continue to demand better if it's all the same to you. The frustrating thing is that we are not even looking for stupid money to be thrown around the place. A lot of us criticised Freddy Shepherd for that. We are looking for decent investment, I wouldn't say Swansea or Soton were throwing money around in the summer but they invested in their squad, ok Swansea have struggled but thats not the point I am making, both teams have spent a decent amount of money to try and push on, it seems that Mike Ashley is happy with status quo as long as the status quo is in the top 10. Modest investment each transfer window could see us competing higher in the table. The league has been so open this season that if we kept Cabaye and added a few more players that we could even have an outside chance of a battle for 4th place. We are in a decent financial position, I like that we are more cautious with our funds these days, however, there is cautious and then there is a complete lack of ambition unfortunately we fall into the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It'll be interesting to see what happens when Southampton and Swansea are established in the top 6-10, will they spend again to push for the CL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If true then we'll have likely made up for the £2m loss by finishing higher in the table with Cabaye in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ashley could turn up in the middle of the night with JFK and spit roast your Mrs and you'd come on here to say it could've been worse, Llambias could've been there too. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 @MsiDouglas: @Neilfarrington Was told they'd take about £17m in summer - so £2m Jan premium? Welcome to NUFC negotiations under Kinnear Couldnt he buy out his contract at some point in the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 @MsiDouglas: @Neilfarrington Was told they'd take about £17m in summer - so £2m Jan premium? Welcome to NUFC negotiations under Kinnear Couldnt he buy out his contract at some point in the summer? There's a load of players who could do that every summer. You very rarely hear about a player doing it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not going to believe anything the local press say to be honest...they know about as much as me and you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 @MsiDouglas: @Neilfarrington Was told they'd take about £17m in summer - so £2m Jan premium? Welcome to NUFC negotiations under Kinnear Couldnt he buy out his contract at some point in the summer? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jonas is the only player I can ever remember doing it other than Webster himself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 @MsiDouglas: @Neilfarrington Was told they'd take about £17m in summer - so £2m Jan premium? Welcome to NUFC negotiations under Kinnear Couldnt he buy out his contract at some point in the summer? There's a load of players who could do that every summer. You very rarely hear about a player doing it though. Expensive business. Reckon they've tried, but couldn't get the slider on the Wonga site to go further than £2m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not a single top player has bought out his contract. And even players that have, the clubs that sign them tend to be forced to fork over some decent money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jonas is the only player I can ever remember doing it other than Webster himself? Some Brazilian Metuesulem or whatever his name was. Went to court too and was a big fee as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jonas is the only player I can ever remember doing it other than Webster himself? We still to pay up too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Coolio. Just asking. Didnt know myself and its been brought up before. Even though its difficult, if you take his age, the fact that he would have 1 year on his contract, and an outside chance of buying out his contract..... All probably factors to reduce his value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jonas is the only player I can ever remember doing it other than Webster himself? Some Brazilian Metuesulem or whatever his name was. Went to court too and was a big fee as well. Matuzalem. Not directed at you but wish people would go do some simple googling and realise the bullshite the media were spouting. If it was that easy, Arsenal would have paid less than half the 42m it took to sign Ozil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Coolio. Just asking. Didnt know myself and its been brought up before. Even though its difficult, if you take his age, the fact that he would have 1 year on his contract, and an outside chance of buying out his contract..... All probably factors to reduce his value. Cabaye's contract runs til 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It isn't as though Cabaye would have a £5m spare to pay us to buy out his deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 RTG-esque in the way that people seem to think that if you say it enough, eventually it becomes true. Sadly that's the case with a lot of viewpoints. Maybe we should all come and join you in La La Land with Tinky Winky and Po, eh Ian? Ashley could turn up in the middle of the night with JFK and spit roast your Mrs and you'd come on here to say it could've been worse, Llambias could've been there too. f***ing hell, we get that people have differing views but to take them to the extreme every time just makes you look like you're on a wind up/craving attention. It's bordering on mental this like lads... what have I said to make you think I believe everything's great? Or that I love either Ashley or JFK? It's actually like my posts exist in a parallel universe where everybody has a frontal lobotomy before being allowed to read. Everything that's not an outpouring of hate is put down as 'being in la-la land'. Genuinely worrying that this is how people form opinions. Whatever the scenario, whatever the general temperament and whatever the downside you consistently seek to spin it into a positive Ian. That's great but you're constant desire to turn s*** news, s*** decisions and s*** management into acceptance of our overall position in the big wide world of football is f***ing nauseating. I'm a NUFC fan who wants my team to compete on every single level, who wont accept not trying in cups, who wont accept anything other than maximum effort to achieve the highest place finish possible with the squad available to us and who absolutely detests being told that we can't compete or we can't match other clubs who are 'bigger'. f*** that, what's the point? This is a simple game of best 11 Vs best 11 and with the right set up and application, we can give any team in the world a game. Do you think we were the biggest club in the world when KK arrived the first time? We were on the cusp of extinction and within a few short years we were an absolute powerhouse, all driven along by total commitment and effort from those running the club. I hang on to that feel good factor not because we nearly won a title but because everyone believed that we could achieve great things. Don't make the mistake of thinking football has changed which locks NUFC out. It doesn't. We've changed. We've allowed ourselves to float along to virtual non-existence. I don't ever recall people crying because AC Milan might want one of our stars. I remember laughing at s*** like that because we believed in the bigger picture, in the general direction of the club. I don't see why we can't achieve this now if the current owner applied himself and gave the football club and it's fans something to shout about. You continue to accept the current situation if you wish, but I'll continue to demand better if it's all the same to you. The frustrating thing is that we are not even looking for stupid money to be thrown around the place. A lot of us criticised Freddy Shepherd for that. We are looking for decent investment, I wouldn't say Swansea or Soton were throwing money around in the summer but they invested in their squad, ok Swansea have struggled but thats not the point I am making, both teams have spent a decent amount of money to try and push on, it seems that Mike Ashley is happy with status quo as long as the status quo is in the top 10. Modest investment each transfer window could see us competing higher in the table. The league has been so open this season that if we kept Cabaye and added a few more players that we could even have an outside chance of a battle for 4th place. We are in a decent financial position, I like that we are more cautious with our funds these days, however, there is cautious and then there is a complete lack of ambition unfortunately we fall into the latter. Yeah - bang on. I'm certainly not looking for mega money to be spunked for the sake of it but even if there was a game plan, a broad vision of how he intends to run the club with a view to progressing at least we could buy in to it. The problem is, you can't buy in to standing still, hence the lack of communication, commitment or passion from the owner. Mike Ashley is running a business and not a football club. I'm not that interested in supporting a business, I want my football club to compete and at least try to win things. If that's not the point of competitive sport then we might as well all pack up and fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jonas is the only player I can ever remember doing it other than Webster himself? Some Brazilian Metuesulem or whatever his name was. Went to court too and was a big fee as well. Matuzalem. Not directed at you but wish people would go do some simple googling and realise the bullshite the media were spouting. If it was that easy, Arsenal would have paid less than half the 42m it took to sign Ozil. Definately my pet hate, such a lazy and incorrect thing to say yet most media are pushing it every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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