Disco Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Linked with a move away here - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/349199/Newcastle-set-to-lose-Demba-Ba and here - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/274700/Demba-Ba-Carroll-swap/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Swap for Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Ba's class. Stick him centrally up front and he will score goals, even in a team who doesn't make hat fulls of chances. Him and Cisse can start playing well together, if we start creating more chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Him and Cisse can start playing well together, if we start creating more chances. Might want to stop hoofing it and ignoring the entire midfield and watching the opponent's CB's winning the ball everytime and the ball just comes back again then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 They both need to start running the channels more too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 They both need to start running the channels more too Well yeah, there's a few issues but actually passing the ball on the ground so we can get our best players into the game would be a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Be have some options to pass to though. Could put a bed sheet over he pair of them most of the time yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 True, the off the ball movement is one of the biggest issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Demba Ba: Partnership with Cisse will gel with time by Mark Douglas, The JournalMar 22 2012 “We didn’t play a lot in the national team together because it was either him or me so we need to learn from each other how we play and how we run and we’re just going to get better and better. http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/03/22/demba-ba-partnership-with-cisse-will-gel-with-time-61634-30597344/#ixzz27xmVW2g9 They don't play together for the national team either - its normally one or the other by the looks of things. I think for our season to really get going Pardew needs to find a way to get these 2 playing well together - looks a long way off atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Demba Ba: Partnership with Cisse will gel with time by Mark Douglas, The JournalMar 22 2012 “We didn’t play a lot in the national team together because it was either him or me so we need to learn from each other how we play and how we run and we’re just going to get better and better. http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/03/22/demba-ba-partnership-with-cisse-will-gel-with-time-61634-30597344/#ixzz27xmVW2g9 They don't play together for the national team either - its normally one or the other by the looks of things. I think for our season to really get going Pardew needs to find a way to get these 2 playing well together - looks a long way off atm. Hmmm.... Ba's grumbling about not playing in the centre won't have helped. I'm wondering whether some personal tension hasn't now entered into the situation. It'd be quite understandable. Cisse just hasn't looked like his previous carefree self. I think things can improve, but not by much. It's fairly standard theory that playing two number 9's together brings problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Genuine question, when we had Shearer and Ferdinand how did we make that work? I was too young to really remember it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Genuine question, when we had Shearer and Ferdinand how did we make that work? I was too young to really remember it. They weren't a great partnership but as a side we created tons of chances and they filled their boots. In terms of partnerships, nothing I've seen has topped Cole and Beardsley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Genuine question, when we had Shearer and Ferdinand how did we make that work? I was too young to really remember it. They weren't a great partnership but as a side we created tons of chances and they filled their boots. In terms of partnerships, nothing I've seen has topped Cole and Beardsley. Do you think we could replicate that with maybe Ben Arfa and Ba? Or Ben Arfa and Cisse? I'd quite like to see that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 For that to happen, HBA would have to become a lot less selfish. Beardsley was the perfect second striker as he seemed to take more enjoyment from creating chances for others than scoring himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Linked with a move away here - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/349199/Newcastle-set-to-lose-Demba-Ba and here - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/274700/Demba-Ba-Carroll-swap/ Express Daily Star Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Genuine question, when we had Shearer and Ferdinand how did we make that work? I was too young to really remember it. Got it wide and crossed it in from the byline? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 it's important to be selfish when your a Striker, but demba your too selfish sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 it's important to be selfish when your a Striker, but demba your too selfish sometimes like when he agreed to give the penalty to cisse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 my point of view man, i think sometimes he forces his shoot when a clever pass would make a great chance of goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Genuine question, when we had Shearer and Ferdinand how did we make that work? I was too young to really remember it. They weren't a great partnership but as a side we created tons of chances and they filled their boots. In terms of partnerships, nothing I've seen has topped Cole and Beardsley. I'd agree with that, though Shearer and Bellamy worked well on a similar pattern. Shearer and Ferdinand scored goals, but the team has a whole began a slippery slope backwards. My memory is that Ferdinand was the one who tended to have to drop deeper, and he never looked comfortable there. At the end of the season, Dalglish decided to try something more along the previous pattern, with Shearer and Tomasson, but Shearer got injured and Tomasson wasn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Shearer and Bellamy was a joy to watch. Bellamy stretching them and making up so much ground to create space for Robert and Solano's crosses while also latching on to throughballs from them and Dyer. Shearer on the end of everything. Demba does some legwork, but neither of him and Papiss could ever be the sort of whirlwind Bellamy was. The perfect foil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 What formation did Freiburg play? I'd be pretty surprised if it's been a case of he's only been able to play up on his own. I think there's heaps of potential with a Cisse-Ba front two even if they don't gel in the conventional partnership sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Was a 4-5-1. Having said that i do believe in Cisse and Ba as a 2 if we actually play through teams and have Cisse running in behind stretching the defenders and Ba coming deep and to help with the build up. ATM they are so isolated and there's no real movement from the midfield or Ba or Cisse themselves or chances created that it's understandable why it doesn't work so well. I think it can work under the right style of play and set up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 2 strikers can work fine without being some sort of telepathic partnership as long as there's enough chances being created by the rest of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 From what I remember both Shearer and Ferdinand were excellent at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, whereas I don't think either Ba or Cisse could really call that a strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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