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Brilliant this like. Go to the states for 4 days and its footballing 'soccer' vacuum. Come back to a drubbing from Arsenal and now Ba is f***ing this game off to be a bit parter at Chelsea. 2013 off to a flyer. Thank god Danny Simpson hasn't....WHHAAATTT?!!!

 

There are more games televised here.  :lol:

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A lot will depend on whether Cisse can get back to his previous goalscoring form, and quickly. I have no doubt he has the quality to do it, I'm just a little anxious that he may not for some reason.

 

He's certainly lacking of confidence now, and I doubt he'll suddenly get it back only cause he's back to central. And the huge pressure he'll have to bear now won't help him either. I think it will mostly depend on his personality and how well he'll be able to cope with all these things.

 

That goal at Old Trafford will have done his confidence the world of good.

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So for the second year on the trot we are about to suffer the indignity of losing the leagues best centre forward in a chain created by the same 2 odious clubs Chelsea & Liverpool.  Their spoilt fans see unwavering investment on the field all the time year in year out.

Even Wigan & Reading have been quickly strengthening ahead of us since the window opened.

 

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I'm even more p*ssed off with Pardew over this pandering to Ba then I ever have been. It was never sustainable to try and keep him here by promising him his favourite position, and now he's wasted half a season trying to pull it off, just totally wrong.

 

He was benched. Unfairly too. Then he just kept on scoring. You tend to pander to the in-form players.

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So for the second year on the trot we are about to suffer the indignity of losing the leagues best centre forward in a chain created by the same 2 odious clubs Chelsea & Liverpool.  Their spoilt fans see unwavering investment on the field all the time year in year out.

Even Wigan & Reading have been quickly strengthening ahead of us since the window opened.

 

 

Carroll was the January before last so its twice in three years.

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It is a good buy for Chelsea but it's not a straight up 7.5m is it, once you throw in the ludcrious agent fees and everything else it's more like 15m.

 

 

And how the fack would you know? :lol: Did they call you and inform you of their fees like?

 

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So for the second year on the trot we are about to suffer the indignity of losing the leagues best centre forward in a chain created by the same 2 odious clubs Chelsea & Liverpool.  Their spoilt fans see unwavering investment on the field all the time year in year out.

Even Wigan & Reading have been quickly strengthening ahead of us since the window opened.

 

 

Carroll was the January before last so its twice in three years.

 

Yeah, last January was the one where we signed the leagues best forward actually.  :)

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I'm pretty amused by the ongoing assertion that Ba's agents are evil incarnate and that he's just going along with whatever they say. They've clearly got a lucrative joint venture going that's benefiting both parties.

 

Absolutely and we got to remember Ba is an adult, lives in a free society and has total power over who he represents his interests.

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So for the second year on the trot we are about to suffer the indignity of losing the leagues best centre forward in a chain created by the same 2 odious clubs Chelsea & Liverpool.  Their spoilt fans see unwavering investment on the field all the time year in year out.

Even Wigan & Reading have been quickly strengthening ahead of us since the window opened.

 

 

Wouldn't call Ba the best centre forward in the league like.

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Other problem is now we need two strikers brought in.

 

Cisse and Ameobi are our only fully tested strikers.

 

We only have Xisco, Sammy, Campbell and Ranger if one or both of the above get injured.

 

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And how the fack would you know? Did they call you and inform you of their fees like?

 

Obviously I don't know the exact details, I'm only going off the endless speculation in the papers about the various add ons. More to the point I'm simply saying it's far from a straightforward 7.5m transfer when everything is finally tallied up.

 

I don't have any problem with the situation to be honest, Ba or his agents. It's all part of the modern game. The only problem I'll have is if we don't bring in a solid replacement

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So for the second year on the trot we are about to suffer the indignity of losing the leagues best centre forward in a chain created by the same 2 odious clubs Chelsea & Liverpool.  Their spoilt fans see unwavering investment on the field all the time year in year out.

Even Wigan & Reading have been quickly strengthening ahead of us since the window opened.

 

 

Wouldn't call Ba the best centre forward in the league like.

 

Neither Carroll.

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I think people long for loyalty, it's part of the "romance" of the game.

 

The problem is that there aren't enough local players coming into their repective teams and the best ones get thrown stupid money at a young age.

 

I truly believe it will change someday and players will find loyalty towards their clubs again but we are a long way off that now.

 

In short, Ba has no reason to stick around.

 

No one is as loyal to a team or franchise than supporters or fans.  Not owners, administrators, managers or players.  It'a a job, career and/or way to make fame and fortune for them.  We invest our time, money and emotions to watch the players perform.  As I get older, I find myself rooting for the uniform more and individual players less.  Kind of sad, really, that we care so much about them and for the most part, those feeling are only briefly returned.

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Other problem is now we need two strikers brought in.

 

Cisse and Ameobi are our only fully tested strikers.

 

We only have Xisco, Sammy, Campbell and Ranger if one or both of the above get injured.

 

Disagree.... if we stick to the 4-2-3-1 we have used since the Southampton defeat then it would make more sense IMO to buy a versatile forward like Remy who can play CF but also on the wings and a winger.

 

Not many teams have many CF's these days because most teams use a system with 1 striker up top so if we continue to use that system i fail to see how we need to buy 2 strikers.

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