Demba Ba (now retired)

[Jack Flash]

I wonder if a move to Spurs could be based on whether he prefers London to Newcastle.

 

Can't be wages as they tend to pay similar amounts to us.

[Big Geordie]

We all knew someone would leave this summer - perhaps it will be Ba. Seems like we are pretty powerless to stop it if he does move - only hope that a good replacement has been lined up by Graham Carr and his team.

[jdckelly]

I wonder if a move to Spurs could be based on whether he prefers London to Newcastle.

 

Can't be wages as they tend to pay similar amounts to us.

who said its Ba behind this one? Smells very like those many agents he has.

 

Wouldn't call it a certainty anyway, lets face it while Redknob probably wants him it comes down to whether Levy is willing to take a risk and offer what will no doubt be a big contract to someone whose knee is a gamble

[Zero]

We aren't willing to take that gamble.  Someone else would, and give him a contract he wants.  I don't blame anyone involved, it is just life.  I genuinely think Ba loves his time here but he has to protect his life earning above everything now since one injury could end his career and that's it.  I don't blame the club too because the thought of having another Smith in our squad for 3-4 more years with over 50k wages is too painful to imagine.

 

Give him a great reception when he's back to St James.  It's an inevitable divorce but there is still love between us.

[aussiemag]

We aren't willing to take that gamble.  Someone else would, and give him a contract he wants.  I don't blame anyone involved, it is just life.  I genuinely think Ba loves his time here but he has to protect his life earning above everything now since one injury could end his career and that's it.  I don't blame the club too because the thought of having another Smith in our squad for 3-4 more years with over 50k wages is too painful to imagine.

 

Give him a great reception when he's back to St James.  It's an inevitable divorce but there is still love between us.

 

Its sad if he goes. But I think there are replacements out there that can further improve our style of play like de Jong.

[Zero]

I didn't worry much about replacement.  The truth is even if there is no replacement, Marveaux could fill in the hole nicely, arguably better than Ba.  Ba's real value to us is he could also play as striker when Cisse's injured, which means Ba is actually a backup player rather than starting eleven.  It is a lot easier for to find a backup striker.  de Jong is a good investment, Best could do a job as well, or unearthing some gems in Bundesliga or Lique 1 would just cost a few millions.

 

What I worry is the negative effect on Cisse.  The departure of his best buddy, the only mate from Senegal....and also, the money offered by the other club, etc. 

[toontownman]

Just have to show him the love... if he is thinking of leaving its because we aren't loving him enough, remember.

[Stu]

Syrup man will stay..

 

gone to PSG man

[loki679]

I do wonder about his knee and this clause that says he gets half the £7m transfer fee.  If he thinks he might not have long left to play due to injury or the risk that his knee might explode then I could see why he'd want to cash in on a big money move.

[sugoinufc]

Syrup man will stay..

 

gone to PSG man

 

straight swap with gameiro is probably more likely

 

will be sad to see him leave....would love him to stay....i think we should try and keep him and cisse + sign someone like gameiro for example. 3 top strikers isn´t too much if we wanna compete in all tournaments (and wanna see us as a top team).

 

could best be the 3rd striker....i dont know?

 

 

[Deuce]

It's quickly turning into the plot of a Hollywood movie. I fully expect the Mirror to run with the story that if he doesn't sign for anyone else by July 31 his knee explodes.

 

Starring Jason Statham as Demba Ba.

 

Morgan Freeman as Alan Pardew.

 

Michael Clarke Duncan as Mike Ashley

 

Shola Ameobi as the ghost of Sir Bobby.

 

Oscars frontrunner right here.

[Darth Crooks]

When you see an agent you do what we do...run.

 

Ignore them demba.

[ExiledGeordie]

 

It would be galling to lose him to Spurs ffs. I could stomach him going to Man U/Chelsea type level but Spurs no

 

It all sounds very complicated with these agents, his knee and the clause which apparently "opens" today. Get the impression the agents will push things because there's a load of cash to be made but ultimately if Ba knows there's more money/longer contract  he'll probably be off. It would make a mockery if he ends up at Spurs though given they can't offer champs league. No point getting wound up as there's nowt I can do about it.

 

I just hope that if he does go we have someone lined up (as I'm sure we probably do).

[Darth Crooks]

Two words. 4 syllables. Shefki kuqi.

 

[Skirge]

So now Chelsea are after him to, this will never end.. Old Droopy Faced Cunt really must be laughing his tits off at our stupidity over agreeing to the clause.

 

But The Mag are saying.

 

 

Relief For NUFC Fans – Demba Ba’s Contract Clause Has Time Limit

BY JACKIE SMITHFIELD ON THURSDAY 31ST MAY 2012

 

There are claims emerging that Demba Ba’s contract clause ends on 31st July and does not run throughout his contract, the Daily Mirror amongst others report today.

 

The clause which is believed to allow Ba to leave for £7m would kind of make sense if it had been given a one year time limit. After his experience at West Ham the player wouldn’t have fancied consecutive relegations and from Newcastle’s point of view, nobody could have dreamed at the season we’ve just experienced or the sheer impact of Demba Ba in the first half of the season.

 

Quite literally United would have seen it as a throwaway clause as they were getting Ba without a transfer fee attached.

 

The time limit aspect is reassuring for fans fearing a repeat of the Andy Carroll sale, when the club claimed the deal was done so late there was no time for a replacement.

 

So we now seemingly have two months where we now have three options rather than two, obviously you still have the possibilities of Ba renegotiating a new contract or moving to another club…but you now also have the possibility of the clause being timed out.

 

With Newcastle’s new found reputation for hard bargaining it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that they would be prepared to take it right up to the deadline in the hope that Demba Ba will see Newcastle as his future without an enhanced contract, though the odds are that we will know one way or another before the clause runs out.

 

The last thing anybody, particularly Alan Pardew, would have wanted would be to go into the new season with only one front line striker again.

 

If Ba does leave, and I really hope he doesn’t, then there will be at least over a month for Newcastle to bring in the essential second goalscorer.

 

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/relief-for-nufc-fans-demba-bas-contract-clause-has-time-limit/

[Guest]

It'll be like how the Owen thing was for the first 2 years. All this mention of a "Oooh, he's got a £13m clause, or is it £9m?" and shite like that, and nowt will happen.

[RR15]

Am I missing something here? Has he left?

 

As for “showing him love” we have for the entire season, and will continue to do so if he stays with the club. If he leaves I have full faith in Chatty Mans dad and his team.

 

[stozo]

Pretty sure he's leaving now. It's obviously Ba's team who have leaked that the release clause ends on July 31st. From that you have to assume that they are looking to engineer a move for him.

[nobby_solano]

I do think he's happy here and doesn't want to leave but I can imagine agents bending his ear and gnawing away putting these stories out to unsettle him

[Unbelievable]

I didn't worry much about replacement.  The truth is even if there is no replacement, Marveaux could fill in the hole nicely, arguably better than Ba.  Ba's real value to us is he could also play as striker when Cisse's injured, which means Ba is actually a backup player rather than starting eleven.  It is a lot easier for to find a backup striker.  de Jong is a good investment, Best could do a job as well, or unearthing some gems in Bundesliga or Lique 1 would just cost a few millions.

 

What I worry is the negative effect on Cisse.  The departure of his best buddy, the only mate from Senegal....and also, the money offered by the other club, etc. 

 

Couldn't disagree more that Ba is easily replaceable as you suggest. Here's some facts for you to ponder:

 

- Sylvain Marveaux as a "ready made replacement" at the left side of a front three hasn't been able to play regularly for the last two seasons. It would be foolish to rely on him as a starter next season;

 

- Demba Ba has played the majority of his career in Germany and England at the left of a front three. It is a position he is very familiar with;

 

- Demba Ba has scored 1 in 3 in the Bundesliga and 1 in 2 in the Premiership. No forward with such goalscoring stats is easily replaceable;

 

- Before the African Cup of Nations Demba Ba was on fire for us. We wouldn't have been in contention for European football if it wasn't for him;

 

- De Jong and Best as possible backup striker replacements is laughable. De Jong ("a good investment" FFS?!) is a full Holland international who will go for 10 million or more, and will move to a bigger club than us as first choice striker. Leon Best is nowhere near the level Demba Ba is capable off, nowhere near;

 

- If "unearthing some gems in Bundesliga or Lique 1 would just cost a few millions", why isn't everybody doing it? Who do you have in mind if I may ask?

 

- Demba Ba has been very important for our team spirit this past season. Take Yohan Cabaye's and Papiss Cisse's word for it, not mine;

 

- If Demba Ba were to leave for the conditions in the reported release clause, it would leave us with under 5 million to replace a 1 in 2 striker capable of playing on the left side of a front three and spearheading the attack if required. 5 million doesn't even buy you Jay Rodriguez in today's market.

 

- Money invested in a replacement will not be available to strengthen positions where we need the reinforcements more to push on next season (full back and centre back)

 

Yet your only worry is whether his buddy Papiss will be alright? Ok.

[ponsaelius]

Spot on.

[Zero]

Should I reply point by point or just ignore them all?

[Ryan_Taylor]

People who don't think losing Demba would be a massive blow...

 

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120130203007/fusionfall/images/8/84/GTFO-Meme-Rage-Face.png

[Unbelievable]

Should I reply point by point or just ignore them all?

 

Point by point please. Really interested in your thoughts on the subject.

[madras]

Pretty sure he's leaving now. It's obviously Ba's team who have leaked that the release clause ends on July 31st. From that you have to assume that they are looking to engineer a move for him.

not so sure, if he does then it'd more likely be to spurs (if they are prepared to subsuantially increase what he's offered here). he wants first team football in the position he wants, not guaranteed it here, wouldn't be at chelsea and liverpool would have to take a big hit on carroll (personally think they'll give him another year), man utd's a possible with ferguson liking rooney to be more of a play maker than through the middle striker.

 

then the question is which clubs will want to pay a fee, agents fees, increase his wages with the rumoured medical doubts ?

 

they may be looking to engineer a move, nothing to say clubs will be willing to help it happen though.