ujpest doza Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Most of our quality deliveries came from Marveaux, I get that he isn't the most invloved player, but he is one of the few who will run with intent and can put in a good ball. Jonas was wide in a couple of great positions a couple of times but his crosses were into empty space. Did Cisse not hit the post from a Jonas cross in the 1st half ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Most of our quality deliveries came from Marveaux, I get that he isn't the most invloved player, but he is one of the few who will run with intent and can put in a good ball. Jonas was wide in a couple of great positions a couple of times but his crosses were into empty space. Did Cisse not hit the post from a Jonas cross in the 1st half ? More of a side note, but it looked like he shanked that cross as it went behind everyone including Cisse. Cisse just adjusted himself better than everyone else in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 He is what I call a luxury player when we don't have the ball, that's why I think to put him outwide really unbalance the team. Therefore I think a only a central role can be afforded to him with two midfielders sitting behind him doing the grafting. I like him but you really have to cater around him, and sadly in a Alan Pardew system you will find he will always prefer sissoko, Nolan ,and even Ba type of cumbersome players to be played in that role so they are more equipped to receiving counter long balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I'd always play him with no Hatem too, one of the few players who may pop up and do something even when rest of team playing badly. Invaluable creative outlook even if I wish he could impose himself better i think Pards could give him more responsibility kinda like how he did with Ben Arfa. Big him up a bit, tell him he's our dude and he's important. When he came on against Stoke he looked more authoritative. I've probably not agreed with any of your posts in quite some time, but you're 100% spot on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 A real quality footballer but just does not do anywhere near enough in a game. 2 or 3 runs and a couple of passes (all with his left anarl as if he'd got a right foot he'd have played Cisse in at 1-0 to make it 2) aren't enough. He's good neat and tidy player who can beat a couple of players with a mazy dribble but he only plays for 10 to 15 minutes a game and goes missing for the other 75. Thats a result of the way that the team is set up as much as anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Yes, when a team is set up defensively you would wonder where your attacking flair players go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 since january we've been set up basically as a 4-2-3-1, two attacking minded full backs, sissoko,gouffran and jonas (2 of which do very little defensivly) playing off cisse. i'd hardly call that "set up defensively" if anything it's a lack of defensive thinking when they have possession that leads to that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Jonas and Gouffran do plenty defensively, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Jonas and Gouffran do plenty defensively, to be fair. it was sissoko and gouffran i was referring to and they put a foot in if the balls near them, do little chasing down and take up poor positions when out of possession, 3 of our front 4 (first line of defence)offer very little resisitance. from the little i saw of sissoko for toulouse he was a much more dynamic player now he's only involved when we have the ball, not sure if the game is just too quick for him at the moment but i certainly want to see him deeper, alongside cabaye as soon (hopefully) as we are safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I think it's fitness issue more than tactical. He nearly shines everytime when coming on as a sub against tired opponents, but he also disappointed us everytime when playing as a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Jonas and Gouffran do plenty defensively, to be fair. it was sissoko and gouffran i was referring to and they put a foot in if the balls near them, do little chasing down and take up poor positions when out of possession, 3 of our front 4 (first line of defence)offer very little resisitance. from the little i saw of sissoko for toulouse he was a much more dynamic player now he's only involved when we have the ball, not sure if the game is just too quick for him at the moment but i certainly want to see him deeper, alongside cabaye as soon (hopefully) as we are safe. I know it was, and I'm in agreement on Moussa. Gouffran does a lot more (effective) defensive work than you're suggesting, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Jonas and Gouffran do plenty defensively, to be fair. it was sissoko and gouffran i was referring to and they put a foot in if the balls near them, do little chasing down and take up poor positions when out of possession, 3 of our front 4 (first line of defence)offer very little resisitance. from the little i saw of sissoko for toulouse he was a much more dynamic player now he's only involved when we have the ball, not sure if the game is just too quick for him at the moment but i certainly want to see him deeper, alongside cabaye as soon (hopefully) as we are safe. I know it was, and I'm in agreement on Moussa. Gouffran does a lot more (effective) defensive work than you're suggesting, though. I don't see it now, he did in his first couple of games (eager to impress ?) but not so much since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Would like to see him on the left in games like today. His reluctance to use his right-foot with Simpson behind him doesn't work for us. Especially as for some reason he kept on running himself into blind alleys down the touchline instead of trying to cut inside onto his left foot. Think on certain occasions when the opposition are playing really deep like Fulham did today he could put some decent balls in from the left-hand side for Cisse to attack. Think he would look a lot better on the right with Debuchy playing as he has added quite a lot to our play. I'm not having a dig at Simpson either, I just rate what Debuchy brings to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Best player on the pitch today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 He's a real asset to us when we're set out to attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Its great to have a player that can actually play with the ball at his feet. lovely little player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 One of my absolute favourite players. He's shown heart and desire in recent weeks, coming back from his injuries and being on the bench for long periods, he's done superb this year. Such a creative force, so much intent and energy and one of the few players exploiting space and running at defenders. Has to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest loven Mag 11 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Marv should be our #10. Love his little Hatem style dribbles. My MOTM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 He is class. Valuable player to us in the absence of Hatem. Id love to see Siss, Cabs, HBA, Gouff, Marv and Cisse as a front 6. It has lethal potential Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Marv should be our #10. Love his little Hatem style dribbles. My MOTM. Aye so graceful when running with the ball today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 He's getting his momentum back - now that he's starting game after game, he's regaining that confidence and sharpness. Some really good positive attacking from him today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 He's faster now than at the start of the season. Also much better. He's a starter now, even when HBA comes back. It should be Cabaye and Sissoko in the centre and the four up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Along with Jonas, my man of the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Best game for us by a mile, much more involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Marv should be our #10. Love his little Hatem style dribbles. My MOTM. Yep. Excellent again today . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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