Jack Flash Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Just seen the goals and it made me think that all that is happening this season must feel like the ultimate nightmare for Alan Pardew. The players he deemed not good enough so loaned out are excelling at their clubs, even in Europe (maybe excluding Ben Arfa so far, but he almost certainly will at some point), and the players he's hailed as the best squad he's ever had look absolutely useless under his guidance. Long Short may it continue. Hull play Palace at home on the weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Great free kick by Marveaux! http://i.imgur.com/YSHuppR.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I remember him in his first season with us and everytime he came off the bench he got an assist and opened up the game. Its bollocks he's too lightweight. Messi is too lightweight for wor Alan. Graham carr needs to realise we need to sign players like John Hartson. Tall fat bastards who can put themselves about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Criminal he wasn't given a chance at AM when Cabaye was sold I can't recall you ever being a fan previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "Lilly livered tosser" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Peach of a free kick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Peach of a free kick What? How was it a peach when he didn't have Williamson to float it to at the back post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Peach of a free kick What? How was it a peach when he didn't have Williamson to float it to at the back post? By all means it shouldn't have worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I liked Marveaux like. He was lazy silk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yup, he's been slagged off loads on here which surprises me considering the love for Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 All technical ability has been removed/not played and it's the thing he's now bemoaning most. Backward twat. Pardew of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 This is the most Pardew team we've had - hence why we'll get relegated. The squad is horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Pardew did his upmost to get fees agreed for Marv and Hatem before he leaves. Marveaux was always best in the middle, was someone that could always find a telling pass to play someone through or open up a defence. While not strong and not a tackler, he was probably the neatest playing in our squad in possession too. Absolutely criminal all these things Pardew has been able to get away with doing, finally its starting to bite him in his arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes He wasn't good enough really, but he provided something that no one else in this team really did. De Jong is probably better than him, imo, but we all know how that has gone thus far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes He wasn't good enough really, but he provided something that no one else in this team really did. De Jong is probably better than him, imo, but we all know how that has gone thus far. Not good enough but the likes of Colback and Gouffran are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes He wasn't good enough really, but he provided something that no one else in this team really did. De Jong is probably better than him, imo, but we all know how that has gone thus far. Not good enough but the likes of Colback and Gouffran are. He has shown some flashes for this club, and has obvious attributes, but his performances were very inconsistent especially domestically, even when he was given ample time on the pitch (the near relegation season), imo. Pardew treated him poorly, that is unquestionable, but there is little evidence that he would be transformative this season. Ben Arfa and Yanga-Mbiwa are different cases in my opinion at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I don't think he was ever given a run in the middle though, when he did get playing time it was out on left wing, a position he simply does not have the athleticism for. That weakness is probably the main reason Pardew has binned him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes He wasn't good enough really, but he provided something that no one else in this team really did. De Jong is probably better than him, imo, but we all know how that has gone thus far. Not good enough but the likes of Colback and Gouffran are. He has shown some flashes for this club, and has obvious attributes, but his performances were very inconsistent especially domestically, even when he was given ample time on the pitch (the near relegation season), imo. Pardew treated him poorly, that is unquestionable, but there is little evidence that he would be transformative this season. Ben Arfa and Yanga-Mbiwa are different cases in my opinion at least. Yeah, I'm with you there. Marveaux was frustrating. We should have replaced him in the squad, definitely, but Marv was hardly great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes He wasn't good enough really, but he provided something that no one else in this team really did. De Jong is probably better than him, imo, but we all know how that has gone thus far. Not good enough but the likes of Colback and Gouffran are. Not really the correct conclusion to draw from Baba's post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wasn't deemed good enough by many on here, now we have moussa and gouffran threading intricate passes He wasn't good enough really, but he provided something that no one else in this team really did. De Jong is probably better than him, imo, but we all know how that has gone thus far. Not good enough but the likes of Colback and Gouffran are. He has shown some flashes for this club, and has obvious attributes, but his performances were very inconsistent especially domestically, even when he was given ample time on the pitch (the near relegation season), imo. Pardew treated him poorly, that is unquestionable, but there is little evidence that he would be transformative this season. Ben Arfa and Yanga-Mbiwa are different cases in my opinion at least. It's a fair point to an extent - Marveaux probably is inherently inconsistent and I imagine he's the type who'll drift in and out of games. But at the same time, it feels like you're ignoring some of the key factors as to why Marveaux wasn't consistent when given the "opportunity". Way I see it, he had a surprisingly cracking Christmas period in 12/13 with promising performances against ManU and Arsenal in the AM role which we hadn't seen him in before - showed good control, carried the ball forward, exploited the spaces, looked to be a very neat and tidy link between midfield and attack. He then got injured in Jan 13, came back around Feb, had a class 10 minute cameo against Chelsea which iirc Pardew praised in the media (proclaiming it was great to have someone with a bit of magic like Marveaux on the bench to bring on for these types of cameos), was then thrown on at left wing here and there (and did nothing because he's simply not a winger), and then was barely seen again. It's obvious he was never given anything resembling the run in the team in the one position that seemed to suit him and the team that he had definitely earned, so this alone should be enough to discredit any notions that Marveaux was inconsistent or not good enough. On top of this, let's not forget just how much hoofball we played in 12/13, especially when the shit hit the fan and it looked like relegation could be a possibility - Pardew hit the panic button, turned his back (i.e. alienated) the "flair" players, and had the team launch it high even more - absolutely no decent footballer could have performed well in that team in 12/13. Prime example - Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Shame that we never were able to see a front group of even Remy and HBA on flanks with Cisse in the middle, Marv behind them and Cabaye with One of our central midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 If we had any ambition in the board of this club we'd have had the chance to have Ba in that group as well. Fucking hell. Talk about an attacking group that could make an assault on the top 7. Mix in the likes of Cabella and such as players who ALL could have been signed as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Its not worth thinking on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 He was top assister in that 16th finish season was he not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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