Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini Santon Tiote Cabaye Marveaux Ben Arfa Jonas Ba eventually, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 We have some good players and our first choice 11 is pretty bloody good. Could have been a lot better squad though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 In an ideal world, this looks like our best starting XI to me: Krul R. Taylor S. Taylor Coloccini Santon Marveaux Cabaye Tiote Jonas Ben Arfa Ba Bench: Harper, Simpson, Williamson, Gosling, Obertan, Best, Ameobi. Only choices I even debated for a short time were R. Taylor/Simpson (still feel Simmo long-term), Marveaux/Obertan and Ameobi/Ba/Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Without Ben Arfa, i'm thinking somewhere along these lines: ------------------------------- Krul ------------------------------- Simpson --------- Taylor --------- Coloccini -------- Santon Jonas ----------- Cabaye -------- Tiote ---------- Marveaux ----------------------- Best --------- Ba ------------------------- I see no reason to suggest why Jonas wouldn't be just as effective down the right as he is down the left, especially now that Jose is gone. Simpson could use the help too and Marveaux looks a great little player. That is a good side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Nice to have a bit of positivity despite a thoroughly shit day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Agree with Yorkie's team, with Ben Arfa displacing Marveaux when fit. Edit: Maybe Raylor in for Simpson if Daddy continues to deteriorate and Raylor keeps on-a shinin' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Nice to have a bit of positivity despite a thoroughly shit day There's no doubting the starting XI looks strong, but how often will we see it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Without Ben Arfa, i'm thinking somewhere along these lines: ------------------------------- Krul ------------------------------- Simpson --------- Taylor --------- Coloccini -------- Santon Jonas ----------- Cabaye -------- Tiote ---------- Marveaux ----------------------- Best --------- Ba ------------------------- I see no reason to suggest why Jonas wouldn't be just as effective down the right as he is down the left, especially now that Jose is gone. Simpson could use the help too and Marveaux looks a great little player. That is a good side. I don't think he'd be as effective on the right tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 No doubt that's a good team, but a spine of Krul, Colo, Tiote, Cabaye, HBA, and Ruiz would have had us really onto something. Can't believe we didn't sign a striker. Really just unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Would I be wrong to suggest that it looks as though only the midfield has been strengthened this summer? Even that's debatable given the influence of Barton and Nolan last season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Would I be wrong to suggest that it looks as though only the midfield has been strengthened this summer? Even that's debatable given the influence of Barton and Nolan last season... I would say the midfield has definitely been strengthened, mainly because Cabaye shits all over Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Would I be wrong to suggest that it looks as though only the midfield has been strengthened this summer? Even that's debatable given the influence of Barton and Nolan last season... I would say so, aye. I'd say we have a marginally stronger first team (on paper), than we did last season - with all incomings and outgoings considered. Marginally. Albert/Enrique/Cabaye... why don't you think Jonas would work down the right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. I would love that. Pinning a lot of hope onto Ferguson and Tavernier. Abeid, Ameobi and Vuckic go without saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. Really hoping that happens with Ferguson. Been saying it for the past couple of days, as Simpson has been poor ever since Hughton went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. I would love that. Pinning a lot of hope onto Ferguson and Tavernier. Abeid, Ameobi and Vuckic go without saying. IMO they should all be out on loan getting their minutes in, not filling in for squad deficiencies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. I would love that. Pinning a lot of hope onto Ferguson and Tavernier. Abeid, Ameobi and Vuckic go without saying. Not to make excuses for the wankers who have failed us this summer, but i would genuinely consider the likes of Vuckic, Sammy and Ferguson as 'new signings'. They certainly weren't really official squad members last season, with only Ferguson looking remotely likely of breaking into the first team. That said, if the likes of Lovenkrands and Smith keep getting the nod ahead of them, then fucking forget it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini Santon Tiote Cabaye Marveaux Ben Arfa Jonas Ba eventually, like. I'd wager we'll never see Ba, Marveaux and Ben Arfa in the same starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Would I be wrong to suggest that it looks as though only the midfield has been strengthened this summer? Even that's debatable given the influence of Barton and Nolan last season... only if you look at it in the most basic of terms, merveaux isn't a forward but is very attacking,cabaye is a midfielder but will overall be much better for us than nolan. I am amazed by the basic way many look at football, very much in FM terms, how many on here scream for 4-4-2 with wingers etc when it's patently obvious thats not going to get the best from our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I really think Ferguson is ready, have more hope for him than anyone else. Tav has also impressed every time I have seen him. We have a lot of talented youth, it would be scary to have to rely on them over a long period but the odd game will help them a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. I would love that. Pinning a lot of hope onto Ferguson and Tavernier. Abeid, Ameobi and Vuckic go without saying. IMO they should all be out on loan getting their minutes in, not filling in for squad deficiencies. Agree entirely. Still think a couple of them will, at least. We're in good shape in terms of fitness at this moment, would be a good opportunity to get them out for a month or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I really think Ferguson is ready, have more hope for him than anyone else. Tav has also impressed every time I have seen him. We have a lot of talented youth, it would be scary to have to rely on them over a long period but the odd game will help them a lot. agree with ferguson. i would have no qualms in putting him in the left of midfiled 3 or even in the 2 behing the forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not enough, I do like quite a few of our back up players though and some of our youngsters have a chance to step up. Shouldn't be the case but the likes of Sammy, Vuckic, Ferguson and maybe even Abeid are going to get chances and I am actually quite excited by that. The general concensus is Ferguson isn't a left back but I am backing the lad to prove a lot of people wrong, tenacious despite being slight of frame, quick and will get forward very well. Reckon this could be his year if given the chance and Santon goes over to the right. I would love that. Pinning a lot of hope onto Ferguson and Tavernier. Abeid, Ameobi and Vuckic go without saying. IMO they should all be out on loan getting their minutes in, not filling in for squad deficiencies. Ideally they would; but i think they're going to be very useful members of the squad tbh - Vuckic in-particular. Tbf, they've all barely had a proper taste of first team action... and certainly not in the Premier League. I don't think keeping them at the club for another year, with the odd appearance here and there, will harm their development at all. In 12 months time - definitely - they should be out playing regularly. Still extremely young at the moment though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Marveaux won't play more than ten league games, that's my prediction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 "Failed us"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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