Aiston Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 A big reason we conceded the disallowed goal as well as completely bottling it when he should have made it 2-0. Pathetic footballer and his career with us has been nothing short of a disgrace, should have got rid a long time ago. Cost us the game big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Played a key part in the goal FWIW. Stop it with this. He ran into space as an overlapping man it's hardly complex or worthy of merit. Whey he made the right run, carried the ball at pace and delivered it to the right place. I don't rate him as a player but he gets criticised way too much and his good stuff is ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Played a key part in the goal FWIW. Stop it with this. He ran into space as an overlapping man it's hardly complex or worthy of merit. Whey he made the right run, carried the ball at pace and delivered it to the right place. I don't rate him as a player but he gets criticised way too much and his good stuff is ignored. The good work on that goal was creating space for him to run into. It's not a criticism to say his role in the goal was simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rent-A-Quote Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Played a key part in the goal FWIW. Stop it with this. He ran into space as an overlapping man it's hardly complex or worthy of merit. Stop what, the truth?! By the way, if it's so easy who else did it? How many times? How many goals did we get from those times? I must have missed them all?! So does that make those who couldn't do what Obertan did that game worse than him? I'm not an Obertan fan but the bashing is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Obertan played an average ball into the box that Sissoko rescued and laid it on to Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Obertan played an average ball into the box that Sissoko rescued and laid it on to Colback. This. It was meant for Colback, initially, but it may well have been far too hard for him if Sissoko hadn't have got to it first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 To be fair I honestly believe if it had been Cabella or Abeid coming off the bench and putting that ball into the box they would be praised for making an immediate impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Christ. You could slag off Hitler on here and Ian would offer a defence. Give it up, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 He's one of the worst players we've had and it genuinely infuriates me that he's into his 4th season here. The fact he was able to pick out a teammate under no pressure in the build up to the goal doesn't change this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 "Obertan passed a ball, we should give him credit for this." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Saying he cost us the game is ridiculous, mind. In absolutely no way did that happen. What cost us the game is that we completely lost our bottle, collectively, as a team - I can't fathom why because Stoke weren't good at all. Obertan missed a golden opportunity, but so did Perez (though the latter did exceptionally well to force a chance in the first place). I can't recall Obertan doing much foul play for the goal conceded; Janmaat - who was utterly wank all afternoon - was very soft and Krul might have done better. We drew the game because we didn't deserve to win - the team and manager were collectively responsible today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Obertan didn't even shoot at an almost open goal, I think it's fair to say to a certain extent that doing that cost us the game, or that he heavily contributed towards it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well in that case it's fair to say to a certain extent he created the goal we scored. Plain scapegoating of a common un-favourite, here. He absolutely ballsed up that chance and him passing it to an opposition player three times in the space of a second was pretty ghastly, but he didn't cost us the game any more than several others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's not though, because he didn't. It's not scapegoating at all, anyone else that refuses to shoot at an open goal and I'd be saying the same, the reason that he's the one getting stick is because he's spineless and the rest of them would have at least had a shot. Ayoze gets away with his miss purely because it shouldn't and wouldn't have been a chance in the first place if it wasn't for him making that situation out of absolutely nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Nor did he cost us the game. He had a big chance and made a shite decision. It was infuriating but it wasn't the reason we walked away with one point instead of three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Christ. You could slag off Hitler on here and Ian would offer a defence. Give it up, man. It's too easy to focus on his War Crimes, I'm not his biggest fan, far from it. That said if you look at his paintings it's clear that he had an artist's soul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 No doubt he should have done better with that chance, but the ball to him by Sissoko didn't help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 No doubt he should have done better with that chance, but the ball to him by Sissoko didn't help It wasn't as perfect as the cross in the first half for Cabella's header I'll admit, but still that miss was all down to Obertan's lack of nerve at the end of the day, he just didn't want to take responsibility. Perez blazed a bad one high and wide as well, but at least he wanted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 He's an abomination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Guy's The One Show of posters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Nor did he cost us the game. He had a big chance and made a shite decision. It was infuriating but it wasn't the reason we walked away with one point instead of three. Original point was that it's easy to argue that it was still one of the big reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 No doubt he should have done better with that chance, but the ball to him by Sissoko didn't help It wasn't as perfect as the cross in the first half for Cabella's header I'll admit, but still that miss was all down to Obertan's lack of nerve at the end of the day, he just didn't want to take responsibility. Perez blazed a bad one high and wide as well, but at least he wanted it. This is it in a nutshell. The guy is crippled by fear and has no confidence in his ability to do the rudimentals of the sport. I don't even think a drop down a few divisions would do him any good because whenever he's put under any pressure from anyone or anything he crumbles and makes poor decisions or his basic technique lets him down. He's a waste of a shirt and there isn't a manager around who could do anything with him. His problems are massive and inherent and he needs to be moved off the wagebill asap. I know it's harsh but. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The fans' reaction to him wasting that chance was brilliant, mind. Looked like 5,000 men all throwing punches at imaginary faces right in front of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 an ant has a bigger heart than this lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Utter shithouse of a footballer. We have a fair few as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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