Neil Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Arteta would struggle to find a good team willing to pay his wage when there are cheaper alternatives on the continent. Once again, James gets it 100% right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Arteta would struggle to find a good team willing to pay his wage when there are cheaper alternatives on the continent. Once again, James gets it 100% right. Tbf there wasn't a 300 word explanation about how Arteta's play on the wing wasn't suited to the altitude of the pitches in England and the gradient of the grass so you got off lightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Very long read but if you have some spare time and are interested: http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-news/blue-union-statement-a-means-to-an-end/ Follow-up to that somewhat infamous meeting with Kenwright, and responding to accusations they misrepresented the conversation. If you think your hierarchy is a mess, you'll enjoy this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Kenwright held talks with potential buyers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Aye it was a short conversation. There's no way I'm giving him two kit kats for that heap of cack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Everton fans plan protest march against club's direction Everton fans' group The Blue Union is to hold what it calls a "peaceful protest march" against the direction of the club at Goodison Park on Saturday. The Blue Union, who feel Everton are stagnating under chairman Bill Kenwright, hope hundreds fans will take part before the game with Aston Villa. "This is not a personal attack on Kenwright as our detractors claim," spokesman Joe Jennings told BBC Sport. "We are protesting about the reasons we are unable to invest in the team." Merseyside Police have granted permission for the march, which will start near the ground at 1400 BST and finish at the directors' entrance. "Fans to meet on Spellow Lane behind Everton megastore at 1400 BST and march down Goodison Road to the directors' entrance at Goodison Park." Everton sold Mikel Arteta and Jermaine Beckford to Arsenal and Leicester for a combined £14m on deadline day at the end of August but boss David Moyes made only three loan signings over the summer. Kenwright has often stated his desire to bring new investors into the club and admitted last month that the Toffees could not borrow any more money, while the £9m they raised from the sale of their former training ground at Bellefield had gone straight to the bank. The Blue Union say the group's aim is not to force Kenwright to leave but want the sale of the club to be taken out of his control. In a statement announcing the protest, the group's members said they wanted to see Everton "appoint a fully autonomous group of professional individuals who can effectively develop and implement a strategy that will identify and sell the club to a buyer who can demonstrate an ability and a genuine desire to take the club forward on both a commercial and football level." The Blue Union is a coalition of Everton supporters groups and independent websites, including Evertonians for Change, Keeping Everton in Our City, The People's Group and SOS1878.co.uk, who are concerned at the lack of investment in the club. More than 400 fans attended its inaugral public meeting last weekend, when the plans for the march were laid. Jennings, an officer of The Blue Union and editor of the SOS1878.co.uk fansite, added: "We hope as many like-minded Evertonians take the opportunity on Saturday to convey their unhappiness at the current situation. "The Blue Union wish to tackle the issues not the individuals. It would be wrong to say we are simply protesting about the lack of investment in the team. No Evertonian wants the club to spend money they have not got. "In any case, the club are in no position to do so because the current board have disposed of all the tangible assets. We're now disposing of the only assets which are left, the intangibles, the players. "Evertonians want strong leadership and a strong board with a strong business plan." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Been coming for ages, this protest. Not much else to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 The biggest question mark against Bill Kenwright's competence lies in his willingness to hold a meeting with this kind of pressure group and not expect to get shafted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 What is the protest hoping to achieve if you don't mind me asking? Kenwright has said he's skint. Unless there's a buyout what are the options? What do the protesters want him to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Hire someone to find a buyer for the club, like Ashley did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Arteta would struggle to find a good team willing to pay his wage when there are cheaper alternatives on the continent. Once again, James gets it 100% right. I did not include a rich Premier League Club panic buying in my analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Hire someone to find a buyer for the club, like Ashley did. I thought they used the same guy we did at the time? If it didn't work then why would it work now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Hire someone to find a buyer for the club, like Ashley did. They have been doing that for years. No one wants them. For years, Moyes has been the only one stopping a fallen great club plummeting down the leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I really don't get it with the press and Moyes. Never say a bad word about him, much like 'arry and Fergie. Moyes has spent a fortune, some not bad signings and some real wastes of money. When things go wrong it's always injuries or lack of investment that are the reason. At their best he has them playing like an Allardyce side. All aggro and high ball, very little silky football through the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 How does not buying a single player for money in over two years translate to spending a fortune? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I really don't get it with the press and Moyes. Never say a bad word about him, much like 'arry and Fergie. Moyes has spent a fortune, some not bad signings and some real wastes of money. When things go wrong it's always injuries or lack of investment that are the reason. At their best he has them playing like an Allardyce side. All aggro and high ball, very little silky football through the years. We can play some shite football for sure, but actually we've played a fair bit of good football. Certainly no worse than what Newcastle have served up in recent years, as means of a comparison. All aggro? sorry mate, but you've obviously not watched us much. When things go wrong it's injuries and lack of investment that's to blame? Too fucking right it is. We've had rotten luck with injuries over the years, and we don't have a pot to piss in. Too right they're reasons for us not doing better. Wait, wait. Missed the best bit. "Moyes has spent a fortune." Which planet are you living on? I can see the nonsensical reply. "Look over the years, he's clearly spent money." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Kenwright held talks with potential buyers? No chance in hell he has. They leak feel-good stories like potential takeovers every time there is some pressure on Kenwright. Hire someone to find a buyer for the club, like Ashley did. They have been doing that for years. No one wants them. For years, Moyes has been the only one stopping a fallen great club plummeting down the leagues. No, we haven't. At the public inquiry into the Kirkby stadium last year it was categorically stated that EFC is not for sale. They only say otherwise in the press to placate the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 As if to prove the point, guess what? Story released on the eve of a protest: Bill's talking with 3 mystery potential buyers! Woohoo! Like fucking clockwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 The biggest question mark against Bill Kenwright's competence lies in his willingness to hold a meeting with this kind of pressure group and not expect to get shafted. Yet Ashley gets slated for not doing that. Not saying which is right just an observation. Loose loose situation for both of them in that particular situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Loose loose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 That's incredibly funny for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Neil - Kenwright portrays himself, and is portrayed in the media, as an incredibly passionate and loyal Everton supporter that would do anything for the club. Is this accurate or still believed by supporters? Do you think he's genuinely looking for a buyer who has the best interests of Everton F.C. at heart or is he just looking to make some money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Very, very sceptical whenever a story about meeting potential buyers comes out. As 1878 rightly says, these are almost always leaked when Kenwright is under pressure (look at the latest story about 3 mystery interested parties, on the eve of a protest - what a coincidence) and the sly timing of these perpetuates the feeling that Kenwright is not being entirely honest. Personally, I don't think he lies when he says he's a passionate Evertonian and hey, he may well be a 'nice guy'. But I also think he is incompetent, going off the tidbits we hear from things like the BU meeting. £24m operating costs, on what? Kenwright: "I don't know, sorry, you'll have to ask someone else". Incredible. That now infamous meeting aside, communication from our hierarchy is non-existent. And the things we do hear reek of total bullshit (sound familiar?) So, who are these buyers? What happened in the previous failed attempts to sell the club? Why did the deals fall through? Fans are waiting for answers to questions like these, but we're going to be waiting a long, long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I really don't get it with the press and Moyes. Never say a bad word about him, much like 'arry and Fergie. Moyes has spent a fortune, some not bad signings and some real wastes of money. When things go wrong it's always injuries or lack of investment that are the reason. At their best he has them playing like an Allardyce side. All aggro and high ball, very little silky football through the years. Moyes has spent about £8m net since he arrived at Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 The more I read hobshobs' post, the more I think it's as though he's tried to write the exact opposite to the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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