madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Might have been average but he still set one up. could have been crap and set one up. surely it's how he plays overall ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Might have been average but he still set one up. could have been crap and set one up. surely it's how he plays overall ? I'd take him getting an assist every game as being 'attacking average'. You said it, not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Might have been average but he still set one up. could have been crap and set one up. surely it's how he plays overall ? I'd take him getting an assist every game as being 'attacking average'. You said it, not me. jeez dave i doubt it. he was defenensivly very poor today and could have cost us more. it's up to you if you want to go by what we got away with, blinding yourself to to what we got away with....santon was cack defensivly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 You know full well I'm referring specifically to your point about his attacking effectiveness. Couldn't have made it more clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 You know full well I'm referring specifically to your point about his attacking effectiveness. Couldn't have made it more clear. and you know full well i'm talking about his play overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Arguing for the sake of it again. Have fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 What did he do that contributed to him being 'very poor' defensively? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 crikey dave, all I said was he was poor defensivly. attacking wise he's been a lot better, regardless of whether he created as goal or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 What did he do that contributed to him being 'very poor' defensively? caught out of position loads, even when he knew that position was getting targeted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 What did he do that contributed to him being 'very poor' defensively? caught out of position loads, even when he knew that position was getting targeted. I don't have a great issue with that if it's due to coming back from an attack, as has been mentioned it's the responsibility of others to slot in for him too - that's something we have to work on as a team. Thought he generally mopped things up fairly well, especially in the first half. Wasn't amazing or anything but certainly don't think he was very poor either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 What did he do that contributed to him being 'very poor' defensively? caught out of position loads, even when he knew that position was getting targeted. I don't have a great issue with that if it's due to coming back from an attack, as has been mentioned it's the responsibility of others to slot in for him too - that's something we have to work on as a team. Thought he generally mopped things up fairly well, especially in the first half. Wasn't amazing or anything but certainly don't think he was very poor either. i differ. for me it wasn't often when he'd been attacking (as in their third, more so not getting back from the middle third) also it's not a general thing, just today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I didn't think Santon was as bad as some are making out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I thought he was alright going forward, his defending was poor at times, I think giving a Haidara a chance might be a good idea. Still think Santon is fantastic, just still seems bit burnt out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 He's just tired in my opinion. We now have Haidara, use him, give Santon a break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 defensivly poor today, attacking average. would put haidara in next week. not because of todays performance but we could do with a more solid , more orthodox full back in this sort of game. Agreed. Every game I watch him recently I come away with him being not defensively being good. Individually he's actually very good defensively, i don't see many attackers wreck him 1 v 1 its positional sense and knowing when to go forward and when not to he has troubles with. Anyway i don't think he was that bad ( apart from the 2nd goal) he was ok in both departments but ok isn't really good enough to me especially if Haidara keeps getting chances and keeps impressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Didn't notice Gouff breaking his neck to stop the cross for the second. Where was Davide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 He's absolutely knackered, like. It's been clear for over a month despite him putting a couple of excellent performances in recently. He had no problems at all defensively in the first three months of the season (when he was more or less our best player coincidentally). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Would love to see him on the wing someday. Bale was always an average looking full back. Then he played a few games on the wing and boom worth 30mil Okay santon might not get that good but still i reckon he can be a good winger Same size , same speed and acceleration , powerful shot too, why not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 He's not the same size, acceleration or speed though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Didn't notice Gouff breaking his neck to stop the cross for the second. Where was Davide? I noticed this happening against Chelsea as well.... Santon would stay forward and Gouffran would track the runner. Ain't got a f*cking clue why though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Thought he was alright today tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Santon was almost walking back watching their break. I like him a lot but stuff like that isn't good enough. If he is physically fucked then I can't really blame him though and he has played a lot this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Santon was almost walking back watching their break. I like him a lot but stuff like that isn't good enough. If he is physically fucked then I can't really blame him though and he has played a lot this season. He has to be mentally tired as that was his 1st game in 2 weeks, no excuse for that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Santon was almost walking back watching their break. I like him a lot but stuff like that isn't good enough. If he is physically fucked then I can't really blame him though and he has played a lot this season. Aye, not a fan of that, needs to be making more of an effort to get back into position faster than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 If he is getting too tired to track back he needs to be more clever when choosing his moments to attack. Will hopefully come with experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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