Tiresias Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm not sure about Marveaux in the centre yet, can he hold up the ball and spray passes past the backline well? I haven't seen him enough for that at present so maybe wrong, that lineup reminds me of England's present set up, fair amount of attacking threat in the midfield but noone who can keep the ball up in between an opponents midfield and defence, (at least while Wilshere is out). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 He looked to have a good passing range and skill on the ball at Scunthorpe. Haven't seen anything else of him though, I'd say it's worth trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 After last season's fixture, I wouldn't mind seeing Colo in a defensive midfield role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm not sure about Marveaux in the centre yet, can he hold up the ball and spray passes past the backline well? I haven't seen him enough for that at present so maybe wrong, that lineup reminds me of England's present set up, fair amount of attacking threat in the midfield but noone who can keep the ball up in between an opponents midfield and defence, (at least while Wilshere is out). For me that's Ben Arfa's position but we should be setting the team up to play that way in anticipation of him coming back, for various reasons i think marveuax's the best option, he looks tidy in possession and with distribution and looks pretty mobile too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 After last season's fixture, I wouldn't mind seeing Colo in a defensive midfield role Aye, breaking up the defence that has been so successful. Good thinking batman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 After last season's fixture, I wouldn't mind seeing Colo in a defensive midfield role Aye, breaking up the defence that has been so successful. Good thinking batman. Best call a mechanic mate, your sarcasm radar is fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 The following 9 have got to start for me: Krul Simpson Santon Tiote Coloccini Taylor Marveaux Cabaye Best Santon has got to come in for Taylor, thats obvious. Might just be me but I was not at all impressed with Obertan - seems to disappear for half an hour at a time, and I didn't think he tracked back well enough either, which isnt really on. Seen enough from Marveaux to want to see him start. Best is our form striker - also thought he was also our best player in the first half v QPR (not saying a great deal though) would start ahead of Ba imo. After that its two from Ba / Gosling / Jonas / Obertan. I'd go with Jonas and Gosling. Don't think he'll go with 2 strikers after Monday so not Ba. Gosling is needed to beef up the midfield after Tiote's slightly concerning performances and its Jonas ahead of Obertan for me. So: Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini Santon Marveaux Tiote Cabaye Gosling Jonas Best is my line up. Mightn't be that exciting but can add a bit to the attack after the hour mark with Obertan, Ba, and Sammy if neccessary and shouldnt get pummelled in midfield like we did on Monday night. Granted you've solidified the midfield in theory but who out of Tiote, Cabaye and Gosling is going to link with Best consistently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I think 5 in midfield is a must. Gosling could link with Best? I'd play Marv in centre mid and Sammy on the right. The kid deserves a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 What's Villa's likely line up? ........................Freidel...................... Hutton.....Dunne.....Collins....Warnock Albrighton..Petrov....Jenas.....N'Zogbia ...........Agbonlahor...Bent................... Is that about right? If so i think i would consider ....................Krul...................... Simmo..Saylor...Colo.....Santon Jonas..Cabaye.Tiote.Marveaux .................Obertan................. ...................Best....................... Obertan isn't showing much form but he's there to stretch them and drop into midfield if needed. Jonas helps Simmo out. Marveaux and Santon mean we can cross from the left or the right foot from that wing. Blah blah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I've always been a fan of 4411. But against QPR of all teams their shape and movement was fantastic, they completely overan us with their 3 in center midfield to our 2, despite our players being better. So its made me realise there is actually alot of positives to a 433. I've thought for a while this should be our line up: Krul Simpson Taylor Colo Santon Marveaux Cabaye Tiote Jonas S am/ Ben Arfa Ba/Best However Maybe this has better merits to it: Krul Simpson Taylor Colo Santon Tiote Cabaye Marveaux Jonas Sammy/Ben Arfa Ba/Best We certainly at the very least need to be able to revert to something similar to this if what happened at QPR happens again. Our results have been flattering due mainly to our hard work, keeper and very impressive deffence but we have been out played by most of the teams we have played so far especially those with three in the middle and we have certainly ridden our luck at times. I can see what Pardew was thinking to an extent. Tiote and Cabaye are so good, we may get away with playing only two in the center and then he can play two up front. However their three man midfield totally dominated. Pardew knows and admitted its back to the drawing board as he needs three in midfield now. If we went for a 433 it may bring the best out in alot of our players. Tiote sits there and breaks up everything he can. It allows the creative Cabaye and Marveaux to get forward picking passes to the quick breaking Ben Arfa (or Sammy when he's injured/rested) and Jonas on his right side which should improve his crossing. Jonas also gets back well to help out Simpson. When attacking Santon and/or Simpson can push up so we are almost a 253 type of formation. Ben arfa and sammy would score alot of goals and create from their position. Marveaux and Cabaye should feel able to get further forward at times to help score goals especially when they have just passed to Ben Arfa/Sammy and Jonas they should be breaking forward looking to get into a foward position looking for the return pass. Not sure who's better out of Ba and Best yet. Best can certainly do an okish job for us until we get someone better. Ba could possibly be better than Best, in this 433 kind of formation which may suit him much better. All he'd have to do is stay forward, central and get on the end of the crosses/passes coming his way just like Jay Boothroyd luckily failled miserably doing against us. When defending we are almost reverting to a 451. The hard working Jonas we already know will muck in there. Sammy and Ben Arfa may also be better than some think. Ba can come back for set plays. Good cover in places too with Gosling and Guthrie in midfield and Mehdi could cover either midfield or possibly the two forward wide areas with Obertan. Shola shoulden't really get a look in in this hard working type of formation and would currently probably be third choice for the striker slot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Defo like the 3 in midfield option either for more security but more so creativity. We don't have two strikers to pull defences about and we need to create more so someone like Marveaux coming in would really benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Krul Simpson Saylor Colo Santon Cabaye Tiote Jonas Obertan Marveaux Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Gosling behind the striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Gosling behind the striker? Played there yesterday, scored two, set one and hit the woodwork twice. Sounded like Norwich were pretty shite mind. We'll probably go 4-4-2 with Shola again........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Really cant play Shola again here. Can he?............Can he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Going off Pardew's comments the other night, we will be going 4-5-1/4-3-3, he also said we where poor going forward, whilst saying we improved after we made the changes, this would suggest Marv will start. If we go 4-5-1/4-3-3, and Santon plays LB, i think we will sneak this 0-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I think we may sneak this one, if we don't play Shola and Raylor. I feel Nzogbia will tear Raylor apart as he had a hard time with SWP on Monday night. If he plays Marveaux and Santon I am pretty sure we may have the quality to beat them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Bad news is Heskey is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The following 9 have got to start for me: Krul Simpson Santon Tiote Coloccini Taylor Marveaux Cabaye Best Santon has got to come in for Taylor, thats obvious. Might just be me but I was not at all impressed with Obertan - seems to disappear for half an hour at a time, and I didn't think he tracked back well enough either, which isnt really on. Seen enough from Marveaux to want to see him start. Best is our form striker - also thought he was also our best player in the first half v QPR (not saying a great deal though) would start ahead of Ba imo. After that its two from Ba / Gosling / Jonas / Obertan. I'd go with Jonas and Gosling. Don't think he'll go with 2 strikers after Monday so not Ba. Gosling is needed to beef up the midfield after Tiote's slightly concerning performances and its Jonas ahead of Obertan for me. So: Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini Santon Marveaux Tiote Cabaye Gosling Jonas Best is my line up. Mightn't be that exciting but can add a bit to the attack after the hour mark with Obertan, Ba, and Sammy if neccessary and shouldnt get pummelled in midfield like we did on Monday night. Pretty much spot on. Gosling linking with Best for me. Really don't rate Obertan. Don't think it will happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Santon and Jonas on the left - Seems strange to have 2 right footed players playing on the left. Cant think of a time that has ever happened for any side could be good i suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Santon and Marveaux on the left would be better, can't see Pardew risking it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Lotus - Friedel went to Spurs & Villa bought Shay Given from Man City! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Cant understand why people still want to see Jonas on the left. He has no end product whatsoever. I appreciate he can bring the ball out of defence, but this usually only relieves the pressure for seconds as the ball is very quickly given back to the other team allowing them to attack again. Give Marveaux a try or even let young Fergie have a run. We desperately need some creativity and ammunition for our forwards and he has consistently proved that he can do neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Lotus - Friedel went to Spurs & Villa bought Shay Given from Man City! HaHa!!! Of course. Sorry, i've even watched them with Given in goal this season. Apart from that glaring error, you reckon that's their likely line up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Santon and Marveaux on the left would be better, can't see Pardew risking it though. Indeed, i really want us to try that in a match. Jonas right and Marveaux left. I am allowed to dream right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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