Wullie Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Anyone know how Sports Direct profits have improved since the free advertisement in the most watched league in the World? Share price was 36p when he took over at NUFC, today it's £6.34. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'd rather have Douglas Renholm own the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Have you heard yourself man? All of you. Mike Ashley the man obsessed with money goes out of his way to accept a lower offer to what, piss off the fans and drag the name of the club through the mud because its good advertising Any more conspiracies you got while we are at it? Mike Ashley behind 9/11 so he could sell more secure luggage? He invented Bird Flu so he could sell trainers to run away from swans? classic nessy thread contribution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The "Cockney b******" song came out again tonight. Best the utter weaklings can do either side of singing about Shola and Pardew. Cretins. Ron, man. Really think this fan rage is somewhat misplaced. I was looking at the screen tonight thinking "daft c***s" at those that paid money to go and watch that in the flesh, then I took a look in the mirror at someone who was sitting at home like a mug doing exactly the same. Only difference is Sky got my money instead of NUFC, which is just as bad if not worse. I don't think it is at all. The fans are refusing to fight for the club in supporting this nonsense. I can see where you're coming from but I think it's pity more than anger that I feel towards them. However, I've been where they are so I can appreciate why they still turn up. There are times when it's all you have, and for some people it's all they'll ever have, they live for it. I can't be mad with people for supporting the team, which is what most of them are doing at the end of the day. Fair point. I just wish people would see the big picture. Surely virtually nobody enjoys the rubbish we serve up at SJP and on the road these days. but what is the big picture? everyone stay's away? won't change anything not with the tv deal it would just mean further cost cuts and bring us no closer to anyone actually buying the club which is the big issue, no one wants to. Disagree - if Ashley is put into a position where he runs the risk of having to put money into the club because attendances were poor and nobody was buying merchandise, he would be out like a shot. In any case, his lack of investment in players will eventually lead to relegation and that will kill off his Sky golden goose. Last night's result is the first step along the way to possibly being relegated. Also don't agree that nobody wants to buy the club - they do, but they know what Ashley is like and they will wait until he is in a position where he cannot mess them about or hold them to ransom...Ashley isn't the only billionaire who thinks he is street-wise....as with everything else, there is always someone smarter/richer and they will come along eventually but it may take a while. Disagree, he'll hold out until the bitter end until he gets the price he wants. And frankly if you were rich why buy an expensive club like newcastle when you can buy a biggish championship club (eg Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday or go to League one Sheffield United or Wolves) for far far less put in some small amount of investment (compared to prem) get them up and boom prem tv package. Are you serious ? Leeds ? Sheff Utd? Wolves ? Since when did ANY of these clubs have the support potential - and actual - around the world that NUFC has ? Lets hope potential buyers know more about club potential than you seem to - don't argue by the way, because you'll start to look silly with that theory. We also have the infrastructure in place. Those clubs might be a lot cheaper to buy but then a lot of money would have to be spent on other things. what makes people think that we are a bigger club than Leeds are just because we are a division higher Leeds have had considerable more success than we have in the last 50-60 years Talking about Leeds former successes is almost as stupid as harking back to our 50s cup wins. Leeds have NEVER been a bigger club than NUFC and if you are using trophies as a yardstick on the size of the club, you have to say that the Mackems, Boro, Leicester, Watford, Luton etc etc are ALL bigger than NUFC because they have ALL won domestic trophies in more recent history than we have. Since when did Leeds have a WAITING LIST of 20,000 for Season Tickets as we did in the 90s ? Any potential buyer is going to look at how big the club could BECOME, not what it did 50 years ago, and on that yardstick, we knock all these clubs into a cocked hat. You haven't been supporting us very long, have you ? Either that, or you are part of the group that has swallowed Ashley and Pardew's lowering of expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 That is exactly the problem. People are so disillusioned and fed-up because the pride and expectation of the club has lowered so much that people don't even think we could challenge as a 'big club' anymore. It's disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't know if 'you've not been supporting the club very long' is a valid reason for people to have low expectations. Surely if you've been following the club for longer you would tend to have lower expectations rather than higher? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't know if 'you've not been supporting the club very long' is a valid reason for people to have low expectations. Surely if you've been following the club for longer you would tend to have lower expectations rather than higher? How is being part of what we achieved in the 90s going to make you have lowered expectations now? If you can remember those days - which I can, vividly - you just know we are a shadow of the club we were now, and we should be expecting far better, which we certainly would under a more ambitious and committed owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't know if 'you've not been supporting the club very long' is a valid reason for people to have low expectations. Surely if you've been following the club for longer you would tend to have lower expectations rather than higher? How is being part of what we achieved in the 90s going to make you have lowered expectations now? If you can remember those days - which I can, vividly - you just know we are a shadow of the club we were now, and we should be expecting far better, which we certainly would under a more ambitious and committed owner. I mean, the 90s wasn't very long ago. What about all the stuff before then? I know we've tasted relatively recent success, and that raises expectations of course. But the bigger picture is not so rosy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't know if 'you've not been supporting the club very long' is a valid reason for people to have low expectations. Surely if you've been following the club for longer you would tend to have lower expectations rather than higher? How is being part of what we achieved in the 90s going to make you have lowered expectations now? If you can remember those days - which I can, vividly - you just know we are a shadow of the club we were now, and we should be expecting far better, which we certainly would under a more ambitious and committed owner. I can remember the 90s very well and yes 93-98 was a purple patch for us but now we are just mediocre....other clubs have had purple patches recently far better than ours....Leeds, Forest even Ipswich these clubs all won major honours. The 90s as you describe we won fuck all yes the football was amazing and exciting to watch but ultimately we won nothing. It doesn't give us the divine right because we are NUFC to think we are any more deserving than their fans I've been watching us for 36 years merlin to answer your question previously so yes I've seen shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I remember it all from the early 80's when I started going, and the time in the 90's under Keegan and Robson, was a good blip. The rest of my time supporting us, it has been years of utter depressing s****. God, some of it was grim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Charles Green selling his shares at Rangers i see http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23767983 Only hoping Cashley buys them up and bids for club and in so sells us ,wishful thinking i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I presume pre-90s we werent the team with the 7th biggest turnover in England or the 20th in the world. And thats without even trying to increase turnover. How we were back then shouldn't have any effect on expectations now or what we're going to do going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I remember it all from the early 80's when I started going, and the time in the 90's under Keegan and Robson, was a good blip. The rest of my time supporting us, it has been years of utter depressing s****. God, some of it was grim. That's reassuring! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I remember it all from the early 80's when I started going, and the time in the 90's under Keegan and Robson, was a good blip. The rest of my time supporting us, it has been years of utter depressing s****. God, some of it was grim. Too right it was grim watching such superstars as Malcolm brown,Wayne fereday and the powerhouse striker that was tony Cunningham...then we all get excited at Micky Quinn. Very much like the mackems at this time we were fed on a diet of 2nd division dross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Leeds FFS 1st they'd have to buy there stadium and training ground, then increase the capacity, then fill it consistently get promoted, replace the whole squad etc just to get up to us. We are a decent owner and manager and a couple of players away from being regular top 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Leeds FFS 1st they'd have to buy there stadium and training ground, then increase the capacity, then fill it consistently get promoted, replace the whole squad etc just to get up to us. We are a decent owner and manager and a couple of players away from being regular top 7 That argument doesn't stand up as every team is a decent owner and manager away from being a top 7 regular...Leeds hit the skids and had to scrap to survive very much like we would have to in the same circumstance all these clubs in the championship that have experienced top success since the 70s are a good owner and manager away from being a Swansea a west brim or Norwich etc....FFS Southampton were a league 1 club 4 years ago now they are spending 40m plus a season in the prem...blowing us out of the water..football can change so quickly Let's see where we are this time next year.. I very much doubt it will be as a premier league team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 And we'd still be a better option than Leeds Are you deliberately twisting this, You asked 'what makes people think that we are a bigger club than Leeds' and I told you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Leeds FFS 1st they'd have to buy there stadium and training ground, then increase the capacity, then fill it consistently get promoted, replace the whole squad etc just to get up to us. We are a decent owner and manager and a couple of players away from being regular top 7 That argument doesn't stand up as every team is a decent owner and manager away from being a top 7 regular...Leeds hit the skids and had to scrap to survive very much like we would have to in the same circumstance all these clubs in the championship that have experienced top success since the 70s are a good owner and manager away from being a Swansea a west brim or Norwich etc....FFS Southampton were a league 1 club 4 years ago now they are spending 40m plus a season in the prem...blowing us out of the water..football can change so quickly Let's see where we are this time next year.. I very much doubt it will be as a premier league team Not to mention the value increase in going from the Championship to the PL is much greater than turning a mid-table side into a top-7 team. Now if you have oil money and want a CL contender then that would be a) more high profile and b) lucrative. But if you're only kind of rich, then taking a lower league club to the Premier League is a much better return on investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 on the subjest of shit/ good. I started going in early 70s with my dad- properly started going when keegan signed- away games, season tickets etc. gave up season tickets late 90s and only go occaisionally now. Most of the time we have been a shit selling club. the jim Smith era sticks with me as a mega grim time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Most of the time we have been a s*** selling club. the jim Smith era sticks with me as a mega grim time. At least from that time we got Watson, Clark, Elliott, Howey.. maybe that was a fluke (couple of) year (s), but it probably matches the youth set-up's entire contribution to the first team since the Hall takeover* - perhaps it was case of necessity being the mother of invention and all that. Urgh, now I'm sat here thinking about 1990-92. Rancid seasons. * - Hughes, Harper, Taylor, Ameobi...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Most of the time we have been a s*** selling club. the jim Smith era sticks with me as a mega grim time. At least from that time we got Watson, Clark, Elliott, Howey.. maybe that was a fluke (couple of) year (s), but it probably matches the youth set-up's entire contribution to the first team since the Hall takeover* - perhaps it was case of necessity being the mother of invention and all that. Urgh, now I'm sat here thinking about 1991-92. Rancid season. * - Hughes, Harper, Taylor, Ameobi...? grimmest time for me ever as a fan, after we lost the play offs to Sunderland until Ardiles was sacked was just shit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/breakdown-of-mike-ashley-s-transfer-dealings-reveal-18m-profit-1-5973100 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Pretty flawed article since it doesn't take salaries, signing on fees and whatnot into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Also, it would be at least fairly useful if I could trust the numbers they do have, but considering most transfer fees etc are never released, much of it is guess work. And if I were guessing, I'd say there is no chance we got £18 million for Enrique and Bassong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Yes I remember at the time we paid a world record fee for free transfer Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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