madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I reckon he will take the TV money before he leaves. Why wouldn't you? if he takes the TV money he'll stay here as no one will buy without that money still being in the pot. tit for tat no? Would always be accounted for in the sale price. not really. he'll want what he's paid out so far or are you saying he'll take the TV money as part of what he's owed ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Im just saying clubs will still be sold after the TV money has been and gone. Quite easy money for him to take. Whether it forms part of his repayment, recouping etc, or just a rich man getting a little richer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He can have the lot if he fucks off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Im just saying clubs will still be sold after the TV money has been and gone. Quite easy money for him to take. Whether it forms part of his repayment, recouping etc, or just a rich man getting a little richer do you think if he took the TV money and held out for what he paid he'd find a buyer ? fwiw I believe if he'd been offered an even break deal he'd have took it any time since that Hull game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Im just saying clubs will still be sold after the TV money has been and gone. Quite easy money for him to take. Whether it forms part of his repayment, recouping etc, or just a rich man getting a little richer do you think if he took the TV money and held out for what he paid he'd find a buyer ? fwiw I believe if he'd been offered an even break deal he'd have took it any time since that Hull game. Yeah I do. I don't think thats too controversial either, all you'd need is someone predicting growth in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Im just saying clubs will still be sold after the TV money has been and gone. Quite easy money for him to take. Whether it forms part of his repayment, recouping etc, or just a rich man getting a little richer do you think if he took the TV money and held out for what he paid he'd find a buyer ? fwiw I believe if he'd been offered an even break deal he'd have took it any time since that Hull game. Yeah I do. I don't think thats too controversial either, all you'd need is someone predicting growth in the premier league. got to disagree, while there will be growth it will be more than equalled by growth in outgoings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Fair enough. I think if he were to sell tomorrow the TV money would inflate the sale price by £60m (or whatever it is). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I just struggle to make a distinction between selling our players and signing significantly cheaper replacements and squireling away a lump sum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Depends who's keeping that profit, him or the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Depends who's keeping that profit, him or the club Are you new ?..........................Ashley is selling the family silver to get his money back on a catastrophic mistake he made by purchasing us in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Told you that did he? I don't doubt he's trying to get his money back, but how do we know he's planning to asset-strip the club in the process? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Why wouldn't you keep it if you were Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Why wouldn't you keep it if you were Ashley? because it's a strange startegy, put in over 200million and take out in drips and drabs, years before break even and more before any realistic profit. I'm sure there are many ways of investing that sort of cash with better and safer returns. you said earlier that the 60mill tv money would just inflate the asking price by that much, I don't see it that way, outgoings will increase and to just add 60mill on to what he paid is to forgot thats 60mill added on to what had polygon and belgravia walking away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What on earth gives you the idea Ashley likes safe bets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What on earth gives you the idea Ashley likes safe bets? like most people the higher the price you pay the safer you want it to be. I don't mind putting a 12 team accumulator on for £2 but if I'm betting £100 it'll be a short price straight bet, no multiples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He spent £50m the other week on a bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He spent £50m the other day on a bet. what was the bet ? and that is still a lot less then over £200million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/mike-ashley-stumps-the-city-with-debenhams-bet-9065718.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/mike-ashley-stumps-the-city-with-debenhams-bet-9065718.html hardly a "bet". it's a derivitive trade, thats like saying playing the stock market is just betting. also if you read the article there is far more to it then meets the eye with business power bases being established etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It's Ashley gambling £50m. He doesn't do the same with us because we called him nasty names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It's Ashley gambling £50m. He doesn't do the same with us because we called him nasty names. it's ashley thinking he can turn a quick substantial profit and also put get some leverage on another business. he doesn't do that with us because the chance of the quick substantial profit is much less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sorry, that seemed to suggest he doesn't do it with his own money. He doesn't even do it with the club's money. Anyway I'm not going into this again, apologies for trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Vince McMahon new owner; The Rock new manager; Stone Cold Steve Austin new DOF and Hulk Hogan new club president! Yes please over the current clowns! http://www.winnersports.co.uk/billionaire-interested-in-newcastle-32493 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Vince McMahon new owner; The Rock new manager; Stone Cold Steve Austin new DOF and Hulk Hogan new club president! Yes please over the current clowns! http://www.winnersports.co.uk/billionaire-interested-in-newcastle-32493 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Who the fuck are winner sports? Trolling bastards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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