Mike Ashley

[Interpolic]

I love it.  I'm sorry but if you don't come up with a decent source but your own day-dreams that's f***ing hilarious.

 

John Hall = football visionary who can look at the world of football and identify the best possible football manager for NUFC.  Unfortunately he kept getting overruled.

 

John Hall did want Sir Bobby but Bobby was under contract at Barcelona.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/news/432906.stm

 

Robson, who currently works for the Football Association's technical department in an advisory capacity, said: "I have had no contact with Newcastle since the day I told them I could not break my contract with Barcelona when they tried to persuade me to manage the club after Kevin Keegan had left.

 

"I was compelled to do that because I had a two-year contract in Spain at the time and was only in the first year. I had to honour that contract.

 

 

Well exactly tbh, we showed an interest in Bobby Robson at times when he wasn't available.  Nobody ever actually chose Dalglish over Robson.

[TRon]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sir-john-hall-joins-martinez-2202166

 

KEVIN KEEGAN, Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder, Sam Allardyce....Roberto Martinez?

Luton Town 1-3 Swansea City

 

KEVIN KEEGAN, Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder, Sam Allardyce....Roberto Martinez? Surely not.

 

If anyone thought the Spaniard’s work at Swansea City was going largely unnoticed in national circles, Sir John Hall’s comments linking him to the vacant Newcastle job should make them think again.

 

Hall, the man responsible for revitalising Newcastle when he took Keegan back to Geordieland in the early 1990s, is still the club’s life president.

 

And, as the Toon Army await the appointment of yet another manager, it seems Martinez’s stylish brand of football has caught the eye on Tyneside.

 

“Do you go for a big name, like the (Guus) Hiddinks, or do you try and find someone who can give us the football we had under Keegan,” Hall said yesterday.

 

“There’s the Swansea manager, Martinez, who seems to be turning them around.”

 

What do you think about that then 'polic? Maybe he was just lucky?

 

 

 

January 2008, after Hall and Shepherd had sold the club.  Right.

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

[Wullie]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sir-john-hall-joins-martinez-2202166

 

KEVIN KEEGAN, Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder, Sam Allardyce....Roberto Martinez?

Luton Town 1-3 Swansea City

 

KEVIN KEEGAN, Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder, Sam Allardyce....Roberto Martinez? Surely not.

 

If anyone thought the Spaniard’s work at Swansea City was going largely unnoticed in national circles, Sir John Hall’s comments linking him to the vacant Newcastle job should make them think again.

 

Hall, the man responsible for revitalising Newcastle when he took Keegan back to Geordieland in the early 1990s, is still the club’s life president.

 

And, as the Toon Army await the appointment of yet another manager, it seems Martinez’s stylish brand of football has caught the eye on Tyneside.

 

“Do you go for a big name, like the (Guus) Hiddinks, or do you try and find someone who can give us the football we had under Keegan,” Hall said yesterday.

 

“There’s the Swansea manager, Martinez, who seems to be turning them around.”

 

What do you think about that then 'polic? Maybe he was just lucky?

 

 

 

January 2008, after Hall and Shepherd had sold the club.  Right.

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

 

 

One of the funniest posts I've ever read on here.

[Interpolic]

  Fucking Jesus Christ.

[Mick]

 

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

 

I think I might have kept that one to myself. 

[TRon]

 

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

 

I think I might have kept that one to myself. 

 

What for? It just shows that labels don't mean that much in the greater scheme of things but if you are willing to sell out then Geordies have their price like everyone else. Otherwise Hall and Shepherd would still own the club.

[BottledDog]

Putting aside the money argument which is desperate stuff. The idea that Shepherd was at least ambitious and exciting just doesn't hold water. The club was dying on its arse with Souness, Roeder and Allardyce his choices after 'shooting bambi', and an increasingly dour bunch of players on the pitch. Fucking delighted he took his wedge and left. Just as with Pardew, whether the grass is greener or not, it gets to a point where a change was needed.

[Dave]

http://i.imgur.com/A1T8iHY.png

 

 

Btw that's an unfortunate typo. Should be Pardelll really.

[Interpolic]

 

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

 

I think I might have kept that one to myself. 

 

What for? It just shows that labels don't mean that much in the greater scheme of things but if you are willing to sell out then Geordies have their price like everyone else. Otherwise Hall and Shepherd would still own the club.

 

Mannnnn.

[Wullie]

 

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

 

I think I might have kept that one to myself. 

 

What for? It just shows that labels don't mean that much in the greater scheme of things but if you are willing to sell out then Geordies have their price like everyone else. Otherwise Hall and Shepherd would still own the club.

 

And that's got what to do with Martinez?

[TRon]

 

 

Hall was still the club's life President at the time.

 

I think I might have kept that one to myself. 

 

What for? It just shows that labels don't mean that much in the greater scheme of things but if you are willing to sell out then Geordies have their price like everyone else. Otherwise Hall and Shepherd would still own the club.

 

And that's got what to do with Martinez?

 

John Hall thought he was a good manager in 2008   Everton hired him as a manager 5 years later and are doing ok   I bet they wish they'd hired Dalglish instead :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

[Interpolic]

wot's goin on

[loki679]

TRon did too much crack

[Thomson Mouse]

You see I'm now going to say that ti despise those signs an Ashley, but to say they're worse than neatly going bankrupt?? C'mon. Now some people with tiny minds will read that as me sticking up for Ashley.

 

Worse than going bankrupt? You just can't help yourself can you?

 

I'll indulge you then.

 

What would you call the financial statements of the club back then? Far from financially solvent?

 

We were just about fucked, please explain how that isn't true or just keep posting smiley faces.

[Unbelievable]

You've fallen hook, line and sinker for Lambiass' and Ashley's rethoric Thomson Mouse. The club debt has doubled since Ashley took over, whilst commercial and matchday revenue has dropped significantly. We're certainly not better off financially, the only saving grace is Ashley has the capital to shoulder the debt. Who knows what might have happened if Hall and Shepherd had not sold. Pouring money into the club when Souness was manager had obviously not worked iut in hindsight. I like to think Shepherd was aware of this, hence the appointment of a manager capable of working on a tight budget (Allardyce). If things hadn't worked out we might have been taken over by another owner capable and willing to grow the club. To say we would have gone under without a doubt is just make belief.

[Guest]

And then spunking £300,000 to Joey Barton to pay for his "loyalty bonus" as his last transfer act.

[ianovthetoon]

All of these people who reckon we'd have done a Portsmouth without Ashley are talking Shite. Does no one think that at some point we wouldn't have been sold to someone else?

 

 

[Guest bimpy474]

All of these people who reckon we'd have done a Portsmouth without Ashley are talking Shite. Does no one think that at some point we wouldn't have been sold to someone else?

 

 

 

Shhh stop talking common sense.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

All of these people who reckon we'd have done a Portsmouth without Ashley are talking Shite. Does no one think that at some point we wouldn't have been sold to someone else?

 

 

 

Someone like Mansour perhaps (actually I 100% think we would now have Aguero playing upfront for us now if Ashley hadn't bought the club)

[maze]

Yet another stunning performance from one of Ashley's fantastic businesses 

[Thomson Mouse]

You've fallen hook, line and sinker for Lambiass' and Ashley's rethoric Thomson Mouse. The club debt has doubled since Ashley took over, whilst commercial and matchday revenue has dropped significantly. We're certainly not better off financially, the only saving grace is Ashley has the capital to shoulder the debt. Who knows what might have happened if Hall and Shepherd had not sold. Pouring money into the club when Souness was manager had obviously not worked iut in hindsight. I like to think Shepherd was aware of this, hence the appointment of a manager capable of working on a tight budget (Allardyce). If things hadn't worked out we might have been taken over by another owner capable and willing to grow the club. To say we would have gone under without a doubt is just make belief.

 

Right, let's get this bullshit back on track.

 

A few posts ago I posted this:

 

"Now some people with tiny minds will read that as me sticking up for Ashley."

 

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt mate as your heart seems in the right place.

 

What you and some other people seem unable to grasp is that just because you despise Shepherd and what he did, this doesn't mean you support Ashely and what he is doing. I despise them both and I have not 'fallen' for anything.

 

Please explain how the dept has doubled. I am aware the commercial revenue has dropped and that is a disgrace in itself, although it suggests more about Ashley's attitude towards the club.

 

Financially we are better off, that is a fact. We are in profit, under Shepherd we were making a loss. You mention it is a 'saving grace' that Ashley can shoulder the debt. Why is this a 'saving grace'? Is it, perhaps, that we were on the financial brink as a club? Barclays were straining at the leash to call in our hefty overdraft and most of our immediate future income had already been squandered on the ludicrous Owen transfer (who then Shepherd tried to give away to some scousers at a set of Jesmond traffic lights).

 

You then ask what might have happened if they had not sold their shares - fair comment, but were you aware that Shepherd had already blocked bids from several consortia and that others walked away due to the state of the finances? The only thing that Shepherd was aware of was that the club had very little money to spend when he appointed Allardyce. It was his last role of the dice.

 

I don't say we would have gone under 'without a doubt', but it was more probable than not. We had no serious source of income, were in debt and had no way of out of it. The model under Shepherd was unsustainable.

 

Now please understand this: I hate Ashley, I despise the bastard for what he is doing to my club. His way of managing the club is not the right one and I hope he disappears tomorrow.

 

What you need to understand is that just because I have pointed out how bad the opportunist headline grabbing sack of shit that Shepherd is, THIS DOES NOT MEAN I LIKE ASHLEY OR WHAT HE HAS DONE. I spent a reasonable part of my life trying to get Shepherd out along with some local journos and 'others'.

 

If you don't believe me try this place http://www.nufcmismanagement.info/index.html  It's just a shame that the excellent NUFC finances site isn't running still, that would have helped you with the Shepherd era.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Thomson Mouse]

All of these people who reckon we'd have done a Portsmouth without Ashley are talking s****. Does no one think that at some point we wouldn't have been sold to someone else?

 

 

 

Shhh stop talking common sense.

 

There is no common sense involved in that statement.

[Guest bimpy474]

All of these people who reckon we'd have done a Portsmouth without Ashley are talking s****. Does no one think that at some point we wouldn't have been sold to someone else?

 

 

 

Shhh stop talking common sense.

 

There is no common sense involved in that statement.

 

Unfortunately it's something that you cannot disprove. Hence it would and could have been quite possible, and fairly common sense to think it might.

[Wullie]

Of course the debt has doubled under Ashley.

 

Statements like "Barclays were straining at the leash to call in our hefty overdraft" don't help your argument either Thomson Mouse. Pure speculation.

[Thomson Mouse]

Of course the debt has doubled under Ashley.

 

Statements like "Barclays were straining at the leash to call in our hefty overdraft" don't help your argument either Thomson Mouse. Pure speculation.

 

What was the debt when Ashley took over?

 

That is not pure speculation. Barclays wanted to call the overdraft in, it was common knowledge.