Tooj Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Could Pardew have similar grounds to keegan for suing? Depends on what his contract says and I'm sure after the Keegan case they'll have made sure that Pardew's contract probably says something about coaching and picking the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Could Pardew have similar grounds to keegan for suing? I believe so. Is it not very likely that Pardew signed his contract knowing something like this could happen? Remember why and how he got the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Could Pardew have similar grounds to keegan for suing? I believe so. Is it not very likely that Pardew signed his contract knowing something like this could happen? Remember why and how he got the job. I don't think anyody except Fat Mike knew what was coming... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I think he might be preparing to sell up. The last time he got Kinnear in, that was the plan. Could explain the short contract as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I thought constructive dismissal was more about working conditions, and someone making it impossible for you to do your job, rather than the terms of the contract. You could be expected to report into a DOF but still be constructively dismissed if that individual forces you out by making your job impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 fuck off and die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Is this real life? How does somebody like this exist? He must be deranged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I thought constructive dismissal was more about working conditions, and someone making it impossible for you to do your job, rather than the terms of the contract. You could be expected to report into a DOF but still be constructively dismissed if that individual forces you out by making your job impossible. Keegan agreed to the DOF role but was unable to do his job due to the conditions it created. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 The Mike, The Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Mike Ashley is a cunt. Nice of my predictive text to know that Ashley was to follow Mike before I'd even typed A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I imagine Pardew will be seeking legal advice, hence nothing from him over the last couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I thought constructive dismissal was more about working conditions, and someone making it impossible for you to do your job, rather than the terms of the contract. You could be expected to report into a DOF but still be constructively dismissed if that individual forces you out by making your job impossible. Keegan agreed to the DOF role but was unable to do his job due to the conditions it created. Yep, that's what I mean. The terms of his contract aren't as important as the conditions on the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason! Maybe the JFK circus act is a giant smokescreen while new suitors conduct DD? I'm not basing it on anything other than a nagging feeling. It's just too surreal, and I'm quite probably too naive to believe that this is the way NUFC will be run going into the new season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 nothing suggests it's being sold like. All it suggests to me is ashleys brought in kinnear as it's his mate, people aren't taking it well, ashley doesn't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstoon Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason! I Don't think he is. you would'nt smash the windows on your car & then try to sell it & get a decent price. All Ashley is doing by hiring JFK is lowering the price he would get for the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason! Ashley is incredibly loyal to those around him. In his eyes JFK helped him out when he most needed it, when no-one in the football world would have touched the NUFC job with a barge pole in the days and weeks after Keegan left. In Ashley's eyes, he helped take a little bit of the flack away from him. Might feel somewhat responsible for his subsequent heart issues. Sticks JFK in on a 3 year fixed contract, knowing that any new owner would need to pay the whole contract out (which would come out of the club's funds not Ashley's pocket). So there you go, clearly selling the club. What other possible reason could there be to appoint JFK as director of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Anybody who ever has a go at KK again is a retard. The shenanigans of the last 3 days have been soul destroying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 nothing suggests it's being sold like. All it suggests to me is ashleys brought in kinnear as it's his mate, people aren't taking it well, ashley doesn't care. This x 10000. If anything this is the opposite of what you would do if selling the club. Surely you make the transition as smooth as possible rather than handing over the keys to a shambles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason! Ashley is incredibly loyal to those around him. In his eyes JFK helped him out when he most needed it, when no-one in the football world would have touched the NUFC job with a barge pole in the days and weeks after Keegan left. In Ashley's eyes, he helped take a little bit of the flack away from him. Might feel somewhat responsible for his subsequent heart issues. Sticks JFK in on a 3 year fixed contract, knowing that any new owner would need to pay the whole contract out (which would come out of the club's funds not Ashley's pocket). So there you go, clearly selling the club. What other possible reason could there be to appoint JFK as director of football. That's a ludicrously tenuous reason though. I agree nobody can think of a good one, but that's not it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Anybody who ever has a go at KK again is a retard. The shenanigans of the last 3 days have been soul destroying. "a retard" f*** me it's a playground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands. Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason! True. Ashley is incredibly loyal to those around him. In his eyes JFK helped him out when he most needed it, when no-one in the football world would have touched the NUFC job with a barge pole in the days and weeks after Keegan left. In Ashley's eyes, he helped take a little bit of the flack away from him. Might feel somewhat responsible for his subsequent heart issues. Sticks JFK in on a 3 year fixed contract, knowing that any new owner would need to pay the whole contract out (which would come out of the club's funds not Ashley's pocket). So there you go, clearly selling the club. What other possible reason could there be to appoint JFK as director of football. That's a ludicrously tenuous reason though. I agree nobody can think of a good one, but that's not it. True, but thought I would give it a go. The fact that Llambias has gone sort of disproves my theory, as he may have kept him on as well and bumped his contract up to ensure he also got a pay off. Llambias was on a fairly meaty payout as part of the deal for the sale that fell through to Moat, so if it was being sold then fairly convinced that he would have been kept on. Llambias going is either a reaction by Ashley to underperformance last year, or more likely that Llambias just wants out and doesn't want another year similar to the relegation year - which I think it looking more and more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Sell up and fuck off. It's our only hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Would anyone stomach relegation if it meant Ashley sold the club? I'd consider that lucky tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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