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I actually don't think he's done it deliberately to spite the fans. Although he probably holds a grudge and enjoys the uproar, I think his actions are simply those of someone who's clueless about football and someone who doesn't give a shit about the consequences of his decisions from a moral viewpoint. As opposed to a constructed attempt to be 'evil', he's just careless, selfish and ignorant.

The one thing that separates great businessmen from good businessmen is normally; vision.

The vision to see something that isn't there currently, that could/should be there.

Back that up with a strong decisive 5 or 10 or whatever year plan and see it through, ironing out the problems along the way.

This doesn't feel like that at all IMO.

It honestly wreaks of somebody just trolling for the sake of it, because he can.

I cannot for the life of me, see what Joe Fucking Kinnear can bring to this party other than mayhem.

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I really can't see how bringing in Kinnear as a DoF to get Pardew to walk is cost effective. Firstly, Pardew is on a low basic wage, so the payoff would be less than what previous managers like Allardyce got. Secondly, and more importantly, if this is indeed the plan, all it would take is for Pardew to start gathering evidence in the form of mails, voicemails or even his own meeting notes to have a very good case for constructive dismissal. Ashley/the club have been found guilty of this before, and this time the case would be even more convincing as Kinnear is being such a moron out in the open. If found guilty of constructive dismissal a second time, dragging our name through the mud again in the process, the payout would be no less than it would be for a straight sack, and quite probably way more as Pardew could then claim part of the bonus' he could have made, as well as declaring they've made him unemployable. Didn't Keegan charge for 25 million at the time?

 

So, I fear Pardew is here to stay, and Ashley genuinely thinks bringing back Kinnear to help the football side of the club out is a good idea as wacky as that sound to anyone with a modicum of sanity. The fact it's pissing us off is a nice little bonus for him too.

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Pardew and Llambias are apparently in a different camp to Ashley and his drinking buddy JFK.

 

It's going to be total carnage with JFK spouting off each week.

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Could Pardew have similar grounds to keegan for suing?

 

Did you read my post? I'd say he'd have an excellent chance, especially with Ashley already found guilty once and Kinnear being so open about interfering with Pardew's remit.

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Could Pardew have similar grounds to keegan for suing?

 

Depends on what his contract says and I'm sure after the Keegan case they'll have made sure that Pardew's contract probably says something about coaching and picking the team.

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Could Pardew have similar grounds to keegan for suing?

 

I believe so.

 

Is it not very likely that Pardew signed his contract knowing something like this could happen?

 

Remember why and how he got the job.

 

I don't think anyody except Fat Mike knew what was coming...

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I thought constructive dismissal was more about working conditions, and someone making it impossible for you to do your job, rather than the terms of the contract. You could be expected to report into a DOF but still be constructively dismissed if that individual forces you out by making your job impossible.

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I thought constructive dismissal was more about working conditions, and someone making it impossible for you to do your job, rather than the terms of the contract. You could be expected to report into a DOF but still be constructively dismissed if that individual forces you out by making your job impossible.

 

Keegan agreed to the DOF role but was unable to do his job due to the conditions it created.

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I thought constructive dismissal was more about working conditions, and someone making it impossible for you to do your job, rather than the terms of the contract. You could be expected to report into a DOF but still be constructively dismissed if that individual forces you out by making your job impossible.

 

Keegan agreed to the DOF role but was unable to do his job due to the conditions it created.

 

Yep, that's what I mean. The terms of his contract aren't as important as the conditions on the ground.

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As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands.

 

Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason!

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As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands.

 

Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason!

 

Maybe the JFK circus act is a giant smokescreen while new suitors conduct DD? I'm not basing it on anything other than a nagging feeling. It's just too surreal, and I'm quite probably too naive to believe that this is the way NUFC will be run going into the new season.

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As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands.

 

Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason!

 

I Don't think he is. you would'nt smash the windows on your car & then try to sell it & get a decent price. All Ashley is doing by hiring JFK is lowering the price he would get for the club

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As someone else has said, I can't shake the feeling that this smells like the club is being sold. I just cannot envision Kinnear being at the club come the start of the season sitting in the stands.

 

Why would it mean the club is being sold? I'm going to ask this in every thread until someone comes up with a reason!

 

Ashley is incredibly loyal to those around him. In his eyes JFK helped him out when he most needed it, when no-one in the football world would have touched the NUFC job with a barge pole in the days and weeks after Keegan left. In Ashley's eyes, he helped take a little bit of the flack away from him. Might feel somewhat responsible for his subsequent heart issues.

 

Sticks JFK in on a 3 year fixed contract, knowing that any new owner would need to pay the whole contract out (which would come out of the club's funds not Ashley's pocket).

 

So there you go, clearly selling the club. What other possible reason could there be to appoint JFK as director of football.

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