Unbelievable Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It's rare a mainstream media piece captures the root of the problem when it's not written by George Caulkin but that one does. Absolutely. That's a great (and very depressing) article about the calamitous consequences of having had to endure almost nine years of parasitic abuse by its owner. Makes you wonder if the club is salvageable at all at this point or of too much damage has already been done to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Ashley is the General Melchiot of owners. Nobody expects us to do the same shit for a 17th time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 A great article by Hayward - who is not always keen on NUFC - which hits the nail squarely on the head...Ashley is the root cause of all the problems ; it was HE who appointed Jiminez and Wise causing KK to walk ; HE who appointed JFK ; HE who gave Shearer 8 games to save the club then treated him like dirt afterwards ; HE who fired Hughton when the club was in a safe PL place in its first season after promotion ; HE who appointed Pardew on the advice of his loud-mouthed associate Llambias ; HE who sold the naming rights to one of Britain's greatest stadiums and cost the club millions in Ad revenue ; HE who appointed an out-of-his-depth Office boy to run one of the largest clubs in England who then proceeded to employ Carver and McClaren(who had already refused the job once), managers in name only who then proceeded to complete the destruction job started by Pardew, Carr(on the jolly of his life), Moncur, Beardsley and their useless associates. Even after all this and with the evidence of his growing commercial failure mounting by the day, Ashley STILL continues down the same path like a runaway road-roller destroying everything in its path. As Hayward says, he is responsible for destroying the faith of a generation of fans and worse than this, probably another as well because it is going to take YEARS to sort the club out after he is gone and it may never be the same again. The final straw for me was that when faced with the overwhelming evidence that the club was diving head-long into the Championship after the Chelsea hammering, they all ducked the issue when they had 18 days for a new manager to try to stem the disastrous fall and it took a hammering by a side in the old 3rd Div not long ago, at SJP, to force ANY acknowledgement that there was a problem. Even now, you wouldn't be surprised if they ducked firing McClaren once again because these people are either desperate to protect their own ghastly necks or scared witless of ballsing it up once more, as is their default setting. Many years ago, during KKs successful first spell, an associate asked me what I though about having Beardsley as manager later on....I laughed him out of court, saying Shearer maybe, but NOT Beardsley because he simply isn't manager material. I was right, but it wouldn't surprise me to see this happen in some sort of botched arrangement in an attempt to ingratiate themselves with the myopic idiots that will still support this failed regime. Heaven help the club if they get this wrong now...Shearer AND Hayward are spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 would it be possible/allowed for NUFC to be publicly owned? i mean, if i had won the 1.5 billion dollar lottery a few weeks back & then bought NUFC from ashley (assuming he'd sell) could i then sell shares of stock in NUFC to the general public? or however it would work... does the premiere league allow it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 You didn't win, don't worry about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 How much ££ Ashley lose if NU relegate? (Parachute ££ versus PL TV ££) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 How much ££ Ashley lose if NU relegate? (Parachute ££ versus PL TV ££) radio said last place club this season would receive 60 million in prize money minimum depending on how many times shown on tele plus parachute payments however next season they estimate that the last place prize money may be closer to 90/100 million plus how many times on tele. factor in that with trying to trim costs or maintain a higher wage bill it may be close to 50/70 million plus no guarantee of a first season bounce back. obviously I am no financial wiz so just my own guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 would it be possible/allowed for NUFC to be publicly owned? i mean, if i had won the 1.5 billion dollar lottery a few weeks back & then bought NUFC from ashley (assuming he'd sell) could i then sell shares of stock in NUFC to the general public? or however it would work... does the premiere league allow it? You could organize the club as a trust (there are various models) and give 51% of the voting rights to the supporters (season ticket holders and so on). The supporters would elect a president once every 3 years who would be accountable to the supporters/trust. The board would also be electable and them and the president would preside over the appointment of the manager. There would be an EGM at the end of every season and a vote for president every 3 years. There is nothing the PL can do about it. They only have say over the fitness of new owners and can block people buying clubs if it is proven they are coming from a history of dodgy dealings etc.... Spurs for instance are a Ltd company but they don't have the fan involvement and voting rights a trust would have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 You didn't win, don't worry about it. i know that, silly. i was just creating a scenario where it would be possible for NUFC to be publicly owned. i wonder if it's allowed/possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 would it be possible/allowed for NUFC to be publicly owned? i mean, if i had won the 1.5 billion dollar lottery a few weeks back & then bought NUFC from ashley (assuming he'd sell) could i then sell shares of stock in NUFC to the general public? or however it would work... does the premiere league allow it? You could organize the club as a trust (there are various models) and give 51% of the voting rights to the supporters (season ticket holders and so on). The supporters would elect a president once every 3 years who would be accountable to the supporters/trust. The board would also be electable and them and the president would preside over the appointment of the manager. There would be an EGM at the end of every season and a vote for president every 3 years. There is nothing the PL can do about it. They only have say over the fitness of new owners and can block people buying clubs if it is proven they are coming from a history of dodgy dealings etc.... i see. thanks. would toon fans want such an arrangement? it seems to work well for the NFL's green bay packers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 would it be possible/allowed for NUFC to be publicly owned? i mean, if i had won the 1.5 billion dollar lottery a few weeks back & then bought NUFC from ashley (assuming he'd sell) could i then sell shares of stock in NUFC to the general public? or however it would work... does the premiere league allow it? You could organize the club as a trust (there are various models) and give 51% of the voting rights to the supporters (season ticket holders and so on). The supporters would elect a president once every 3 years who would be accountable to the supporters/trust. The board would also be electable and them and the president would preside over the appointment of the manager. There would be an EGM at the end of every season and a vote for president every 3 years. There is nothing the PL can do about it. They only have say over the fitness of new owners and can block people buying clubs if it is proven they are coming from a history of dodgy dealings etc.... i see. thanks. would toon fans want such an arrangement? it seems to work well for the NFL's green bay packers... Personally I believe all clubs should be structured in this way. It is the only sure way of stopping clubs getting fucked up by idiots/speculators and outside forces with no connection to spirit and history of a club. If I was running the FA/PL that would be the first rule change I would make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 would it be possible/allowed for NUFC to be publicly owned? i mean, if i had won the 1.5 billion dollar lottery a few weeks back & then bought NUFC from ashley (assuming he'd sell) could i then sell shares of stock in NUFC to the general public? or however it would work... does the premiere league allow it? You could organize the club as a trust (there are various models) and give 51% of the voting rights to the supporters (season ticket holders and so on). The supporters would elect a president once every 3 years who would be accountable to the supporters/trust. The board would also be electable and them and the president would preside over the appointment of the manager. There would be an EGM at the end of every season and a vote for president every 3 years. There is nothing the PL can do about it. They only have say over the fitness of new owners and can block people buying clubs if it is proven they are coming from a history of dodgy dealings etc.... i see. thanks. would toon fans want such an arrangement? it seems to work well for the NFL's green bay packers... Personally I believe all clubs should be structured in this way. It is the only sure way of stopping clubs getting fucked up by idiots and outside forces with no connection to spirit and history of a club. yeah...:::: if only... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Mr Ashley wants that TV money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Spend what you like, hire who you like, act proper. You're still a cunt and can stll fuck right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 He's still a cunt even if he does appoint Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 He's still a c*** even if he does appoint Rafa. The mong brigade will laud him again though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 It could always be worse I suppose... Sobering reading Villa's accounts: £27m loss, wages up £14m, CEO's pay up £990k, commercial revenue down, turnover down. Team rock bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Either the last year or so has shown Ashley exactly how much of the club's money he needs to spend, sort of manager he needs to even just make us competitive, etc which can't be bad for us, or he begins to think 'fuck this' and looks to sell is how I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I know the rewards are huge but it must be a massive pain in the arse for him - Newcastle is just sheer hassle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 this man is a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sports direct getting a kicking on the local news, apparently parliament might summon fat man to the select committee. How quickly things can go tits up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Getting pissed in Soho at the moment apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sports direct getting a kicking on the local news, apparently parliament might summon fat man to the select committee. How quickly things can go tits up. Would be fucking great that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sports direct getting a kicking on the local news, apparently parliament might summon fat man to the select committee. How quickly things can go tits up. Would be fucking great that. Ian Mearns in parliament today: "If we do get Mike Ashley into this place can we also question him about the terrible running of Newcastle United Football Club at the same time? I don't want to diminish the importance of the employment practices of Sports Direct but I'm afraid to say based on the management of Newcastle United I don't expect a very big party in a brewery any time soon." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Would be f***ing great that. Getting pissed in Soho is nothing special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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