Theregulars Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Please just stop ruining one of the few things I genuinely love Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/31/manchester-city-50m-right-back-transfer-window-summer-2017 Newcastle are skint though, honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Has Ashley actually ever invested in the club? - Buying the club is not an investment as he should get his money back - He has made loans to the club but wants that money back. Plus he is being paid in kind by the free advertising his shop receives. - Land that was previously owned by the club is being developed by him as a private venture. - The club has lost millions in two entirely avoidable relegations because of the decisions he has made. - He has lost the club millions in commercial revenue and exactly where does the revenue from merchandise goes. - Gate receipts have fallen - not for altruistic reasons - but to address falling attendance and to manipulate a positive image I am not one who thinks he should put his own money in but I hold him entirely accountable for the current financial situation. He has never invested in the club in the way it is portrayed in the media but he has consistently damaged the financial health of the club and continues to do so. Absolutely this. He's also gone on record saying his plan was always to invest 20m a year and only two years ago "to continue to invest", both of which haven't happened unsurprisingly. He has taken money out though (a repayment for part of the debt). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sport Direct share price when he took over - £1.99 Current share price - £3.88 (It has been as high as £9.22) Obviously you can't measure how much of that is due to his exposure from us but it's not a coincidence. He's had more than he has specifically put in imo, including the money to buy us and prop us up after our first relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Things haven't gone well but it's not the end of the world. January is the real test imo. You've changed your tune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Things haven't gone well but it's not the end of the world. January is the real test imo. You've changed your tune. #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Things haven't gone well but it's not the end of the world. January is the real test imo. You've changed your tune. You didn't get the bitter, dripping sarcasm emanating from every letter of that post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think he get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Is it the Bundesliga were there is a "plus 1 rule", or something similar? Meaning fans hold a 51% or majority share of a club, to stop fat c*** owners like Ashley not investing and backing the club with football related income. Whatever it is, the PL and EFL need it introduced. In Sweden we have the 51% rule, the fans (if they turn up for the clubs meetings) have 51% of the votes when big desicions are to be made. The fans can also call for a meeting if they for example want to get rid of the chairman. Then every member or shareholder can vote and the majority decides. No one can own more than 49% of the club as 51% is "owned" by the fans. The fans can vote on who will be the chairman and a lot of other things too. Only problem I see with this is that no one want to put in big money to the clubs as they cant decide on their own what the money goes to. But I think it would work better in England where the tv-deals are so big and the league generates more money for the clubs than in Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Is it the Bundesliga were there is a "plus 1 rule", or something similar? Meaning fans hold a 51% or majority share of a club, to stop fat c*** owners like Ashley not investing and backing the club with football related income. Whatever it is, the PL and EFL need it introduced. In Sweden we have the 51% rule, the fans (if they turn up for the clubs meetings) have 51% of the votes when big desicions are to be made. The fans can also call for a meeting if they for example want to get rid of the chairman. Then every member or shareholder can vote and the majority decides. No one can own more than 49% of the club as 51% is "owned" by the fans. The fans can vote on who will be the chairman and a lot of other things too. Only problem I see with this is that no one want to put in big money to the clubs as they cant decide on their own what the money goes to. But I think it would work better in England where the tv-deals are so big and the league generates more money for the clubs than in Sweden. I agree. Would at least level the playing field. Now clubs are far too dependent on the owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If every ST holder throws in £10k, we could buy out Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If every ST holder throws in £10k, we could buy out Ashley. Class, I'll just nip to the bank m8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If every ST holder throws in £10k, we could buy out Ashley. nee chance of that- but theres something like 2 million facebook followers, so if you could get them involved the amounts drops massively. Still no chance tho- many fans in the ground are content with nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Newcastle fans owning the club wouldn't be much better than Ashley owning it. Fans can never agree on anything as this forum shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If every ST holder throws in £10k, we could buy out Ashley. If every Season Ticket holder throws in £10 we could have him killed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Aye, it wasn't a serious suggestion Although cp40 is right - we are well supported enough to have 250,000 supporters that could throw in £1,600 each which would be enough to buy him out. Works out even less if you let some people throw in more for a slightly bigger percentage. Just needs someone else with a bit more wealth to front the group and the time to take it on. The only downside of course is the club would need on-going investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If every ST holder throws in £10k, we could buy out Ashley. If every Season Ticket holder throws in £10 we could have him killed Who would the club go to, some little runt in his family? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I know Joselu was a few days after, but he was just giving us a glimpse of the benefits and weaknesses of having the transfer window end before the start of the season. Don't know what the fuss is. Great stuff him offering us as a guinea pig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Who would the club go to, some little runt in his family? One of his (two?) daughters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If every ST holder throws in £10k, we could buy out Ashley. If every Season Ticket holder throws in £10 we could have him killed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Newcastle fans owning the club wouldn't be much better than Ashley owning it. Fans can never agree on anything as this forum shows. We could agree and nominate someone to run the club like a president, we all have our clubs best interests at heart. Its never going to happen anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Aye, it wasn't a serious suggestion Although cp40 is right - we are well supported enough to have 250,000 supporters that could throw in £1,600 each which would be enough to buy him out. Works out even less if you let some people throw in more for a slightly bigger percentage. Just needs someone else with a bit more wealth to front the group and the time to take it on. The only downside of course is the club would need on-going investment. 51/49 partnership with someone like the bundesliga model would be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Ashley could actually do all that himself and tap into that well, to fund it while retaining majority share- why not- because he has no desire to see the club succeed, it literally is deliberate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-41095682 So one of his cockney mafia that used to be in charge of the club is a thieving lying git what a surprise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think looking into what went on at Rangers might give us a better idea of what is likely going on in regards to our club. Something relevant from a Telegraph Article in 2014: On the day before the Somers email, it was revealed that Nash and Wallace had been targeted because they had opposed a deal which would have given Ashley the rights to Rangers’ club crest and trademark in return for emergency funding, a proposition which the pair did not believe represented sound commercial value for the club. Ashley, meanwhile, had helped bring about another financial crisis at Ibrox, first by refusing to take part in Rangers’ equity issue in August and then by increasing his holding through a private share purchase which meant that his money would not go into the club. As The Daily Telegraph revealed on Monday, Ashley also gave up the naming rights to Ibrox stadium – notoriously acquired for £1 from the Charles Green consortium which brought Rangers out of liquidation in 2012 – but in exchange for significant commercial and advertising rights within the ground. Another deal with Green channelled Rangers’ merchandising through Sports Direct outlets and gave Ashley even more influence over the club’s financial health. I dread to think of what he'd done or going to do to us in the future. Fucking parasite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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