Sifu Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Prediction time, going to go for 2-2. Cabaye and Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 1-1, Ba to score first. Got money on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Fair enough in cricket or rugby when the captain makes a genuine difference. But on the field in modern day football I think captain's tend to be a waste of time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 An elected leader is important in just about every context, especially on a playing field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 An elected leader is important in just about every context, especially on a playing field. For me, a captain on a football pitch is one who is able to inspire the other players through his own example. A captain like Coloccini, for example, isn't one who is really vocal on the pitch but is one who leads by example (in Colo's case, it's his calmness on the ball, won't give up etc.). Such a captain should be able to inspire the others. Kevin Nolan was a vocal leader and wasn't afraid to give his view when needed. He was able to keep the players together by his own example, sure he wasn't a proper athlete but he was dedicated to the cause and was a professional. Now let's look at Michael Owen. He was quite frankly the worst possible choice for a captain because his example was not really doing anything on the pitch or even off it. For a player who really wasn't arsed with the cause of helping to keep us up nor was he a model professional is hardly the inspiration his peers needed. Great leadership material eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Fair enough in cricket or rugby when the captain makes a genuine difference. But on the field in modern day football I think captain's tend to be a waste of time How does a captain's role matter in rugby but not in football like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 An elected leader is important in just about every context, especially on a playing field. For me, a captain on a football pitch is one who is able to inspire the other players through his own example. A captain like Coloccini, for example, isn't one who is really vocal on the pitch but is one who leads by example (in Colo's case, it's his calmness on the ball, won't give up etc.). Such a captain should be able to inspire the others. Kevin Nolan was a vocal leader and wasn't afraid to give his view when needed. He was able to keep the players together by his own example, sure he wasn't a proper athlete but he was dedicated to the cause and was a professional. Now let's look at Michael Owen. He was quite frankly the worst possible choice for a captain because his example was not really doing anything on the pitch or even off it. For a player who really wasn't arsed with the cause of helping to keep us up nor was he a model professional is hardly the inspiration his peers needed. Great leadership material eh? I agree, however in the Owen scenario it was clear that team didn't have anyone capable of been a leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 As much as I didn't like him too much as a player - especially during that season - Nolan looked like a leader from his very first game - Sunderland at home. I remember him talking to the other players collectively and organising a group huddle before kick-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 An elected leader is important in just about every context, especially on a playing field. For me, a captain on a football pitch is one who is able to inspire the other players through his own example. A captain like Coloccini, for example, isn't one who is really vocal on the pitch but is one who leads by example (in Colo's case, it's his calmness on the ball, won't give up etc.). Such a captain should be able to inspire the others. Kevin Nolan was a vocal leader and wasn't afraid to give his view when needed. He was able to keep the players together by his own example, sure he wasn't a proper athlete but he was dedicated to the cause and was a professional. Now let's look at Michael Owen. He was quite frankly the worst possible choice for a captain because his example was not really doing anything on the pitch or even off it. For a player who really wasn't arsed with the cause of helping to keep us up nor was he a model professional is hardly the inspiration his peers needed. Great leadership material eh? I agree, however in the Owen scenario it was clear that team didn't have anyone capable of been a leader. Now that I think about it, yeah we didn't have any leaders as such on the pitch that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Of course it matters who's captain man,what absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The fact you can actually point out the differences between Colo and Nolan as a captain and Owen or whoever as a captain, means a captain's role is important IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Would fancy a proper 5 man midfield to give the back four some protection. That would probably involve giving Alan bloody Smith a game, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Can't see us getting owt here. Be delighted with a draw but these injuries have hit us at the wrong time and to precisely the wrong personnel. Allied to the fact that these are decent at home i think we're up against it. Still can sit back and enjoy as our start means we are under very little pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 FWIW, I don't rate them, really, but we've got too many crucial players out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 not sure if I've had a go yet but 3-1 to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Team news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Santon and Perch will start. Beyond that we don't have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Cheers, Hopefully we can see something good from Santon. Perch is Perch. Think we are going to be very attacking today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 All out attack, can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'd like us to out with an all attack. Either that or we will pack the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 All out attack, can't wait. Aye that'll be mint like. I think with the injuries we're carrying a bad result is excusable. We should just concede that we'll concede and go bat shit crazy. Get Santon running at them, Obertan running at the them, Ben Arfa looking about like a curious meerkat, Gosling doing what he does... Ba getting his third Hat Trick... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Excited now, could be back in the top 4 later today if we play to our potential Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The potential of a back four consisting of Perch,Santon,Raylor and Simpson is only heading in one direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The lowest odds you can get on a clean sheet are like 10/1, so that tells you something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Fair enough in cricket or rugby when the captain makes a genuine difference. But on the field in modern day football I think captain's tend to be a waste of time How does a captain's role matter in rugby but not in football like? Because only the captain can talk to the ref in rugby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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