Wullie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Sorting offside out would go a long way. Either take offside out of VARs remit, or allow a buffer zone for the attacking player, so we're not checking borderline decisions. Dale Johnson from ESPN said the other day that leagues have been prevented from using the Champions League method, which is apparently just to do a visual check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Balbuena decision was absolutely laughable. How can you get to the top level of officiating and think that this is anything more than a follow through. The tech can be perfect, but its useless if its left in the hands of utterly clueless cunts. Every week there' outrageous decisions. Its pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 So many things happen today show how broken football is. The Wilson goal, shows how the rules just don't work and how VAR is not fit for purpose as they never looked at the TAA push. ASM getting body checked, yellow cards worthless here. Football needs sin bins like all other sports. Do a tactical foul like that your team is down to 10 men for 10 mins. The west ham red, well I'm not sure how you fix that. See so many stupid decisions with follow throughs either the kicker catching someone, or a defender trying to block and the kicker kicking them and then getting hurt. You'd think with endless replays they'd see it's not even a foul but I'm not sure what rules these people are reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 That Balbuena sending off was fuckin ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I wonder what it'll take before a manager or players decide to take protest action and refuse to give interviews, walk off the pitch etc? Surely we can't be far away from that, every week there's a blatantly wrong shit decision screwing one team or another over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I'd like to hear a ref like Peter Walton come on to explain the reasoning behind the decision. The pundits don't seem to know enough about how the rules are being interpreted to help us here. It does seem that a lack of intention doesn't completely exonerate a player if they're not properly in control of the challenge. Overall, there's sufficient doubt about the incident to make it not worthy of a red. It was unusual became the leading foot came downwards on to the opponent's leg, although that seemed to be the result of Balbuena's standing foot slipping on the turf. I was opposed to VAR being used for anything but matters of fact like whether the ball crossed the goal line and offsides. But now that it's here, we may as well try and make it work better. As Walton said yesterday, refs are in areas which they've never had to explore before, and it'll take some time before it's all straightened out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Are offsides matter of fact? They're literally drawing lines on a screen to see if someone's toe nail is offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Well, within the limitations of the technology, yes, offsides are a matter of fact. I don't get the fuss about decisions when a player is only fractionally offside. If you're going to use technology, then that's offside. Keep it simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Cronky said: I'd like to hear a ref like Peter Walton come on to explain the reasoning behind the decision. The pundits don't seem to know enough about how the rules are being interpreted to help us here. It does seem that a lack of intention doesn't completely exonerate a player if they're not properly in control of the challenge. Overall, there's sufficient doubt about the incident to make it not worthy of a red. It was unusual became the leading foot came downwards on to the opponent's leg, although that seemed to be the result of Balbuena's standing foot slipping on the turf. I was opposed to VAR being used for anything but matters of fact like whether the ball crossed the goal line and offsides. But now that it's here, we may as well try and make it work better. As Walton said yesterday, refs are in areas which they've never had to explore before, and it'll take some time before it's all straightened out. I wouldn’t ask Peter Walton anything. I don’t think he’s ever went against a decision that’s already been made when he’s been asked for a ‘second opinion’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Cronky said: Well, within the limitations of the technology, yes, offsides are a matter of fact. I don't get the fuss about decisions when a player is only fractionally offside. If you're going to use technology, then that's offside. Keep it simple. The fuss is surely at what point do you freeze the frame then what part of the body you use to draw the line. If the TV companies revisited all these VAR offsides and didn’t show the lines and asked an audience whether they were on or off you’d soon realise the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Also the offside rule was invented with built-in benefit of the doubt to attackers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, LFEE said: The fuss is surely at what point do you freeze the frame then what part of the body you use to draw the line. If the TV companies revisited all these VAR offsides and didn’t show the lines and asked an audience whether they were on or off you’d soon realise the problem. Like I said, the technology has its limitations, but you get a more accurate decision than relying on the human eye in a split second. VAR was never going to be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Cronky said: Like I said, the technology has its limitations, but you get a more accurate decision than relying on the human eye in a split second. VAR was never going to be perfect. Referees are never perfect. So let’s just stick with them and enjoy the moment more wether the decision is proven right or wrong the next day ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 12 hours ago, LFEE said: Referees are never perfect. So let’s just stick with them and enjoy the moment more wether the decision is proven right or wrong the next day ?♂️ It's obstructing what the real issue is that refs are getting a lot of decisions wrong and don't apply the rules consistently enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 The West Brom penalty decision was absolutely grim too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 What's the point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) I put this in wrong thread, think the ref should get the 3-match ban. How he watched that on a replay and decided that’s a red card was shocking. Edited April 27, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Never a pen that. ^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, joeyt said: Jesus it's more of a foul by the Peterborough player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 VAR would probably have sent the Lincoln player off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 How come Bale's first goal was allowed to stand today but Wilson's against Liverpool wasn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, joeyt said: How come Bale's first goal was allowed to stand today but Wilson's against Liverpool wasn't? The handball wasn't 'immediately' before the goal. Apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 That's mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I'm paraphrasing but that's essentially what they said. A few seconds of play elapsed between the handball and the goal. Therefore it's ignored and the goal given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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