joeyt Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Wouldn't have minded seeing more replays of that Dunk penalty shout. Looked clumsy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Not given because the VAR adjudged Onana and the Wolves player to be a 'collision' as opposed to a late challenge from Onana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Making it up as they go along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Decent watch even if it was that little fucking prick Owen presenting it. Webb is trying to be transparent and I do think he's being let down by some of the doylum decisions by some VAR officials. If there was silence people would whinge even more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 This changes everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 I still don't understand how the var fella goes it's clumsy and late but then doesn't say go look at it to the ref. He seems to think it's a foul but then the ref says its a collision and then the var bottles it. The ref should shut the fuck up he's made his decision as it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: This changes everything It doesn't need to "change everything." Fans just deserve an explanation if they're going to suffer from this bullshit. Should be immediately after the game. Dunno why they don't already; think of the content/clicks/views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: It doesn't need to "change everything." Fans just deserve an explanation if they're going to suffer from this bullshit. Should be immediately after the game. Dunno why they don't already; think of the content/clicks/views. I thought the sarcasm would have landed like but the actual point I'm making is that it changes nothing. It's scratching an itch for something we already know and in specific cases already find out via explanations afterwards - that they're often incompetent, inconsistent cronyists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Decent watch. I still can't understand the Wolves one, such an awful decision. The Akanji one was the wrong decision, but it didn't look as bad watching it with the VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, andycap said: I still don't understand how the var fella goes it's clumsy and late but then doesn't say go look at it to the ref. He seems to think it's a foul but then the ref says its a collision and then the var bottles it. The ref should shut the fuck up he's made his decision as it happened. I think the bit in bold is an important piece of the puzzle that VAR as implemented is getting wrong, and the audio highlights that perfectly: VAR is there to correct clear and obvious refereeing mistakes. Therefore the referee shouldn’t influence VAR’s decision making process by defending his view of the situation. VAR needs to review the footage and make up their own mind without the referee in their ear telling them how he saw the situation. A referee who’s (potentially) made a clear and obvious error should explain their view and how they’ve managed to miss a clear and obvious error after the game, not defend their shit decision making as it is being exposed. Edited September 5, 2023 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 What the fuck made Sky think we want to watch a ref giving his non-opinions on our favourite Saturday football show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Hellaw hellaw hellaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Hellaw hellaw hellaw Which one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Froggy said: Which one? The one that wasn't a clear foul in the box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 What the fuck is the ref and var doing this game? The disallowed and now this. Not sure i understand this game anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 It's horrifically worrying that they would happily disallow that Wilson goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: The one that wasn't a clear foul in the box Neither were fouls in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 That was terrible by both ref and VAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Blatant foul on Tripps just outside the box first half. Bruno should have been booked for a dive in the box. Not a chance there was a foul on the keeper for the disallowed goal. Standard of refs and VAR consistency is woeful, it's just made up as they go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: Neither were fouls in the box. Im what world was Gordon not fouled man You (rightly) wouldn't shut up about Trippier's foul on Ronaldo in similar circumstances (ball going out of play/needless challenge). You know it was a foul, this is a pointless charade. Edited September 16, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 It's like we are putting together a presentation as to why we should be voted the worst refs in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Im what world was Gordon not fouled man You (rightly) wouldn't shut up about Trippier's foul on Ronaldo in similar circumstances (ball going out of play/needless challenge). You know it was a foul, this is a pointless charade. I really hope you're joking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I have no idea how 95% of N-O missed this but here’s Wilson grabbing goalie’s arm when he tried to punch the ball away and understandably missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: I really hope you're joking. I'm not. Explain how Gordon wasn't fouled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Just now, Pata said: I have no idea how 95% of N-O missed this but here’s Wilson grabbing goalie’s arm when he tried to punch the ball away and understandably missed it. Yeah. There's no way that goal was standing. I think the first penalty was soft, and the second one should have stood. If the ref had made opposite decisions then VAR was probably reversing the latter. It's mad, they just want profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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