Ace Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 12 hours ago, geordiesteve710 said: We "imported" that Jared Gillett from Australia (granted he spent two years in the EFL before reffing Prem games) and he's one of the worst in the league. There's something toxic in the English game which is absolutely fucking up the way VAR is used. It's certainly not abuse from the fans but I don't think it's because English refs are intrinsically or genetically blinder/more incompetent than other nationalities. I agree that they can in theory be good but the culture is toxic and needs to be changed. it’s hard to grow good crops on bad land . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Infatuation Junkie said: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/var-overrule-goal-line-technology-29301011.amp Wow, if it’s true there was a malfunction it’s maybe not as bad. Was it actually the right decision when VAR corrected it? As it doesn’t say in the article Youd think with goal line tech it wouldn’t be hard to have an extra monitor on say the 4th official in case the refs didn’t work. I also think talking to the crowd like in the NFL to explain what is going on would help everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Ace said: Wow, if it’s true there was a malfunction it’s maybe not as bad. Was it actually the right decision when VAR corrected it? As it doesn’t say in the article Youd think with goal line tech it wouldn’t be hard to have an extra monitor on say the 4th official in case the refs didn’t work. I also think talking to the crowd like in the NFL to explain what is going on would help everything. I seen the goal and the watch flash. Was blatantly a goal but not in sight of ref. VAR cameras couldn’t see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 All they had to do was manually place the ball over the line to check if there was an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 This is what they do. They do it so you don’t get those types of free kicks and the other teams do. The ones that are not controversial but gradually break the game up and slowly gives the momentum to one team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Stifler said: This is what they do. They do it so you don’t get those types of free kicks and the other teams do. The ones that are not controversial but gradually break the game up and slowly gives the momentum to one team. Palpably felt myself with that first dive and inevitable very soft free-kick in the second-half. Edited April 15, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Young not getting a yellow card today was criminal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 No big decisions wrong but that was terrible, giving absolutely every decision to Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just standard home team bias. They would have won anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, simonsays said: Just standard home team bias. They would have won anyway Yes they would have but it was still garbage. 'Standard home bias' shouldn't exist ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, Pata said: Yes they would have but it was still garbage. 'Standard home bias' shouldn't exist ffs. Agreed, but it does. We benefit from it as much as anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 they were chucking themselves to the floor in response to the slightest nudge - watkins in particular. ref never got a grip. not why we lost though, but it was frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, huss9 said: they were chucking themselves to the floor in response to the slightest nudge - watkins in particular. ref never got a grip. not why we lost though, but it was frustrating. Every time, and I mean every time a Villa player lost the touch of the ball they would fall over and get a free kick. Every 50/50 tangle/cuddle Villa got a free kick. Every time the Villa player was approached by the opposition they fell over and got a free kick. That referee was feckin awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Rod said: Every time, and I mean every time a Villa player lost the touch of the ball they would fall over and get a free kick. Every 50/50 tangle/cuddle Villa got a free kick. Every time the Villa player was approached by the opposition they fell over and got a free kick. That referee was feckin awful. That was pretty much their game plan, that's why the comments about 'dark arts' flabbergasted me and how we are apparently the worst at it (or the best if you like) which from the evidence today we are clearly lacking in that department! However tactically it was a masterclass, it stopped us from getting into 2nd gear and demoralised us at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) We've had the same bias in some home games, that's how it flows sometimes. Edited April 16, 2023 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 19 hours ago, El Prontonise said: We've had the same bias in some home games, that's how it flows sometimes. Which ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) Edited April 18, 2023 by Nepharite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 16/04/2023 at 20:29, Ace said: Which ones? i was thinking that the free kick for our 2nd goal against Man utd was a bit soft, think it was longstaff who was fouled, he bought it if you like, but then rashford got a softer one in the final which led to their opening goal. Apart from that I can't remember us getting many soft ones, certainly not on the scale of villa who must have set a record for players going down, especially against brushing or just a gust of air. it was reminiscent of football italia back in the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Nepharite said: Hopefully it becomes commonplace at some point in the near future. That ref also seemed to be very respectful with his comments to players, issuing warnings and explaining his decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Nepharite said: That would be a major PR coup for refereeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, 80 said: That would be a major PR coup for refereeing. Imagine a miced up Mike Dean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Nepharite said: Absolutely brilliant, that. Seems like a decent bloke too - clearly trying to communicate in different languages to the players. Stick him in the aforementioned, toxic, environment of PL officiating and I dare say he'd turn to shite. Absolutely support the mic'ing of refs though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Nepharite said: wow. far too sensible, eloquent and sophisticated for the english game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 We've done it before in our football, It was an Arsenal game and iirc David Elleray was the ref and I think Tony Adams called him a cheat at one point. Never understood why they didn't keep trialing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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