sbnufc Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Was nowt in that, he didn't dive in and feet weren't off the ground/studs up. Looks way worse on the pic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a deliberate handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs. Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off. In other words the referee simply did not know the rules. No other way of viewing it. If it wasnt intentional it was certainly reckless and could have injured the player. Either way completely a red for me. Not sure why there is an argument or more pundits agreeing. Le tissue is the only pundit I have seen that said it could have been red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a deliberate handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs. Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off. In other words the referee simply did not know the rules. No other way of viewing it. If it wasnt intentional it was certainly reckless and could have injured the player. Either way completely a red for me. Not sure why there is an argument or more pundits agreeing. Le tissue is the only pundit I have seen that said it could have been red. They said it was a red on MOTD too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Didn't stop the game for a head injury for their 2nd either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Didn't stop the game for a head injury for their 2nd either Been saying this for games on end. Refs do not stop the game when we get a head injury. They do when the opposition does. It’s just bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Was nowt in that, he didn't dive in and feet weren't off the ground/studs up. Looks way worse on the pic Eh, the pic shows its a two footed challange. Red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Was nowt in that, he didn't dive in and feet weren't off the ground/studs up. Looks way worse on the pic Maybe so, but there wasn't even a foul given for that 2-footed challenge where Almiron was running at speed where 1 foot would have sufficed given he'd almost over-ran it anyway. It was dangerous play but not 'uncontrolled' so maybe a red may have been too harsh, but it was without doubt a foul and a yellow at least and you've certainly seen players sent off for that. Maybe I'm only saying that because Almiron got up and played on after a bit of rolling about. If he was indeed injured, it's a simple straight red as you just can't go in 2-footed like that. The refereeing performance was one of the worst I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Was nowt in that, he didn't dive in and feet weren't off the ground/studs up. Looks way worse on the pic Eh, the pic shows its a two footed challange. Red. The pic is misleading, like I said. You can watch it back uh.. online and see it yourself if you really want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Still pics are often misleading but I don't know about that on this one. It's illegal to have your body in that position while tackling and it doesn't matter if he gets the ball or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Was nowt in that, he didn't dive in and feet weren't off the ground/studs up. Looks way worse on the pic Eh, the pic shows its a two footed challange. Red. The pic is misleading, like I said. You can watch it back uh.. online and see it yourself if you really want I am in shock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Still pics are often misleading but I don't know about that on this one. It's illegal to have your body in that position while tackling and it doesn't matter if he gets the ball or not. Wasnt in that position though for the full tackle, his right leg was planted up until the moment Almiron got there at which point the contact made it come up looking like the pic you posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Lee Mason Bald, unfit prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Yet another massive mistake. That's three massive mistakes this weekend already. Two of them which could affect the winner of the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Quite similar to wolves last goal against us when dubravka was blinded+impeded. Shocking refreeing standard. These happenings are so common we can't call them mistakes anymore. The ref actually think he is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Was just so bad on so many levels. In fairness Everton should be blowing too as they were screwed by a couple of pretty stonewall decisions. Two footed tackle from Zouma on Almiron - nothing Pickford stopping a clear goalscoring opportunity making no attempt to play the ball - Not even a yellow Head injury during a build up of a goal - play on Yedlin making full contact late on a player in the box - no penalty Rondon clearly offside - not given Really was bloody awful across the board. Evened out his shitness and a trip to the Championship for the ref and assistants beckons surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Not the first time I've sat watching one of our games wishing death upon Mike Dean. Absolute arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Not the first time I've sat watching one of our games wishing death upon Mike Dean. Absolute arsehole. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Fucking disgrace that Mike Dean is allowed to referee, every fan of every club hates him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Appalled at Mike Dean. Aperplectic, in fact. Should have won today, against 10 men, with at least a penalty in our favour. The man is obviously bias as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 You can't give away cheap penalties when you're inconsistent with it. Fuck off Dean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 It’s soft, but also daft from Fernandez. I don’t actually mind if penalties are given for shirt/arm pulling, holding etc. What I can’t have. Is Dean not returning the favour for one that was as much of a pen on Rondon. Or the most blatant one of the lot, where Yedlin was wiped out. Yedlin got away with a similar one last week on Digne and I feel like if he didn’t spoon his cross. It would have been a more obvious foul. All that said. It’s not like Dean to make it all about him and try and be controversial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Ban/fine for daring to say a referee gave a poor performance. Question the players, the manager, the owners, the fans, even stadium staff, but you can’t question a match official. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 It’s soft, but also daft from Fernandez. I don’t actually mind if penalties are given for shirt/arm pulling, holding etc. What I can’t have. Is Dean not returning the favour for one that was as much of a pen on Rondon. Or the most blatant one of the lot, where Yedlin was wiped out. Yedlin got away with a similar one last week on Digne and I feel like if he didn’t spoon his cross. It would have been a more obvious foul. All that said. It’s not like Dean to make it all about him and try and be controversial. Tackles like that one on Yedlin are rarely given in the box, actually thought the other player had deflected the ball in real time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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