Kid Icarus Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Aye, wtf is going on? 22:54 Late drama Bayern Munich 0-0 Copenhagen Referee Stephanie Frappart awards a penalty to Bayern Munich after believing the ball bounced up on to the arm of Peter Ankersen. It's so similar to the incident last night when Newcastle's Tino Livramento gave away a penalty against Paris St-Germain. However, this time VAR tell the referee to take a look and she overturns her initial on-field decision. Only thing I'd disagree with is the similarity to Livramento's, it's nothing like it. Not the type of pen I like to see given, but not really controversial and within 'seen them given' territory. VAR shouldn't have intervened imo. Edited November 29, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Aye, wtf is going on? 22:54 Late drama Bayern Munich 0-0 Copenhagen Referee Stephanie Frappart awards a penalty to Bayern Munich after believing the ball bounced up on to the arm of Peter Ankersen. It's so similar to the incident last night when Newcastle's Tino Livramento gave away a penalty against Paris St-Germain. However, this time VAR tell the referee to take a look and she overturns her initial on-field decision. It wasn't even similar, the ball hit the body and the top of the arm at the same time, whereas ours clearly hit the chest before hitting the elbow. Total corruption and at least the ref tonight had the bottle to make the right decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 That was from BBC btw. Haven’t seen the Copenhagen pen shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, El Prontonise said: You must be so perfect at your job. Well what do you suggest? Do we just keep going allowing colossal fuck ups with no consequences. I did mention if it's proved to be a complete fuck up. I actually feel sorry for those lads grafting their arses off last night to be cheated out of a result, I feel sorry for Gary O'Neil having to be careful what he says incase he gets fined while arseholes who make the fuck ups sit back unpunished. Obviously I know the job reffing is totally challenging, and nobody is perfect, but if it's reviewed and deemed to be a piss poor, rather than demote a ref for a game here or there hit them with the removal of their match bonuses. Harsh yes, but so are the things I've mentioned, and them refs won't give a toss about the likes of O'Neil or our lads fighting to the death to be robbed. Cheers for making an opinion personal though 👌 Edited November 29, 2023 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Well what do you suggest? Do we just keep going allowing colossal fuck ups with no consequences. I did mention if it's proved to be a complete fuck up. I actually feel sorry for those lads grafting their arses off last night to be cheated out of a result, I feel sorry for Gary O'Neil having to be careful what he says incase he gets fined while arseholes who make the fuck ups sit back unpunished. Obviously I know the job reffing is totally challenging, and nobody is perfect, but if it's reviewed and deemed to be a piss poor, rather than demote a ref for a game here or there hit them with the removal of their match bonuses. Harsh yes, but so are the things I've mentioned, and them refs won't give a toss about the likes of O'Neil or our lads fighting to the death to be robbed. Cheers for making an opinion personal though 👌 Here man, give your head a shake as the idea of fining people for making mistakes is counter productive there's countless studies showing people make more mistakes when there is more pressure on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Another hand ball VAR moment at AZ game with ref sticking to on-field decision despite going over to check screen. This refereeing of hand balls is all over the shop atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Another hand ball VAR moment at AZ game with ref sticking to on-field decision despite going over to check screen. This refereeing of hand balls is all over the shop atm. That's the way it should work if the on field ref thinks it's no penalty. Not giving it, if it passes all the guidelines for no penalty like the bottlejob idiot of a ref in our game did. Edited November 30, 2023 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: That's the way it should work if the on field ref thinks it's no penalty. Not giving it, if it passes all the guidelines for no penalty like the bottlejob idiot of a ref in our game did. Agreed, but begs the question why referees and VAR assistants can’t rule an incident consistently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: That's the way it should work if the on field ref thinks it's no penalty. Not giving it, if it passes all the guidelines for no penalty like the bottlejob idiot of a ref in our game did. Absolutely, let the referee see the video and make the decision based on that and not just accept whatever it is that VAR thinks. Well fucking done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Agreed, but begs the question why referees and VAR assistants can’t rule an incident consistently Yeah the inconsistency is awful, the human factor I suppose will always give some different results. But some of the bad decisions just fly in the face of complete common sense, and just plain basic refereeing standards, that's the maddening thing for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 hours ago, El Prontonise said: Here man, give your head a shake as the idea of fining people for making mistakes is counter productive there's countless studies showing people make more mistakes when there is more pressure on them. The fact it shouldn't have been a penalty is far too clear and obvious as evidenced by every single professional who has seen it commenting as such and UEFA binning their VAR guy immediately. There is no way it's a simple mistake made under pressure. There is no excuse for such a call when the evidence to the contrary is right in front of his face in slow motion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pata said: Absolutely, let the referee see the video and make the decision based on that and not just accept whatever it is that VAR thinks. Well fucking done. Part of the problem on Tuesday was he only looked at one angle for about ten seconds before deciding he couldn't wait to point to the spot. Edited November 30, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Bimpy474 said: That's the way it should work if the on field ref thinks it's no penalty. Not giving it, if it passes all the guidelines for no penalty like the bottlejob idiot of a ref in our game did. Then the issue is did the ref do that in response to the debacle at our game and not wanting or being told to, not cause any more controversy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, wyn davies said: Then the issue is did the ref do that in response to the debacle at our game and not wanting or being told to, not cause any more controversy. Yeah, a knock on from the feck up in our game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Part of the problem on Tuesday was he only looked st one angle for about ten seconds before deciding he couldn't wait to point to the spot. Aye, there should a rule, well a law that the onfield ref has to see all available angles before making a decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Credit where it’s due, thought ref had a great game today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute added time in the first half was bordering on corruption Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jordan said: Credit where it’s due, thought ref had a great game today. Apart from the stoppage time at both halfs I would agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Yeah, other then the bizarre stoppage time, that was probably the competent display of refereeing I've seen this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 The Pope injury alone was 4 mins tbf. Then we had a few subs in the second half too, it was probably about right tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) That was the type of refereeing I like to see. Probably dictated by the way the match was like, but still Edited December 2, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 One minute Otherwise not too bad, but Maguire should’ve been booked eons before he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Missed a clear yellow on Schar when they had a counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, nufc123 said: Missed a clear yellow on Schar when they had a counter. Yeah, that one early 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, El Prontonise said: Yeah, that one early 2nd half. Could not believe he escaped that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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