Mole_Toonfan Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I can't be bothered to read back very many pages, but TBH anyone being anything other than happy with our manager and our current position is beyond me. Alright, we have a few question marks over playing style and team selection, but FFS we're seventh at Christmas and after a tough run of results. Let's at least enjoy it for a bit. Yh iam very unhappy with the style of football and team selection in recent weeks , make no mistake tho iam delighted with the current position in the league and the great work Pardew has done this season for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 iam2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 9th actually. And you did define what he was brought in to do. Can't be bothered arguing with you if you can't keep up and perform your usual monkey routine of completely refusing to take the significant facts into account when they conflict with your argument. I thought that we were 10th at half time but I can't say for certain at I was at the match so can only repeat what I was told. You mentioned relegation, I didn't but I don't ecxpect you ever to admit that you are wrong, even though it's in the thread and is plain to see for anybody who reads it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Alot of slagging off of pardew and I was one of them but alot of the problems lately have to be down to too many players out of form. During the unbeaten run we had Jonas flying, the best defence in the league at that point, best scoring goals and cabaye/tiote in better form(guthrie fit) I do blame Pardew for some poor tactics/team selections since chelsea but i don't think he is suddenly crap and the start of the season was some sort of fluke. Hopefully a few players will return to form and we get our confidence back which seems to be really lacking based on recent performances. (except Mr.Ba) EDIT* jeez i still have christmas shola as my avatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 What on earth are you on about, Mick? I've made absolutely no attempt to hide from the fact I mentioned a threat of relegation as the time we're presented with a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 You can't just say the players are out of form as an excuse for Pardew though, its his job to have every player playing at the best of their ability. I'm fairly sure Jonas, Cabaye, Tiote's etc. form will improve when Ben Arfa gets a run in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 And it was you who defined the situation as target-oriented in relation to his appointment, yet completely disregard the fact that Pardew meets and even surpasses the implied benchmark. If the threat of relegation looms, we have a problem. If not, we maintain managerial stablity and continue to gradually improve the squad. Hasn't improved us. I asked at what point does the manager become a proble, you said "when there's a threat of relegation." I defined nothing, you did. You do realise that we are currently going through what is probably our worst set of results since relegation, don't you? If we are to improve on last season then we have to finish higher than 12th, we finished 12th but were 45 minutes from 10th. Not quite, we also had a 5 points from 8 games run last season, arguably an easier set of fixtures last season as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Once again this thread is derailed with bullshit arguments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Less of the above. http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hatem+Ben+Arfa+Everton+v+Newcastle+United+5255wm7Yn28l.jpg More of this please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 And it was you who defined the situation as target-oriented in relation to his appointment, yet completely disregard the fact that Pardew meets and even surpasses the implied benchmark. If the threat of relegation looms, we have a problem. If not, we maintain managerial stablity and continue to gradually improve the squad. Hasn't improved us. I asked at what point does the manager become a proble, you said "when there's a threat of relegation." I defined nothing, you did. You do realise that we are currently going through what is probably our worst set of results since relegation, don't you? If we are to improve on last season then we have to finish higher than 12th, we finished 12th but were 45 minutes from 10th. Not quite, we also had a 5 points from 8 games run last season, arguably an easier set of fixtures last season as well. I remember it well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ben Arfa will start tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I think he looked lighter before, dunno if he's had to lift weights too much, takes away some agility. Just me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ben Arfa will start tonight. I think he will as well. I don't believe Obertan will be fit to start so he'll play instead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ben Arfa will start tonight. I think he will as well. I don't believe Obertan will be fit to start so he'll play instead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 So naive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 So naive. It isn't really. By playing Ben Arfa against the top teams Pardew can then claim he was right all along not to start him when we get beat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Barfa started the last time we played Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Everything this week points to Ben Arfa finally getting a start, but I'm not going to be shocked at all if he's a sub again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ben Arfa will start tonight. I think he will as well. I don't believe Obertan will be fit to start so he'll play instead of him. I wish, but I really doubt he'll start, especially instead of Obertan. Pardew just refuses to play him on the wing no matter what. If Obertan doesn't start, Sammy Ameobi will (despite Sammy also not being a winger..). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 i really hope is the gamehe starts and shows eveyone just what he can do, tearing utd apart all game. Hope is a great thing aint it, come on hatem make it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Sammy is a winger isn't he? Or a wide forward anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Sammy is a winger isn't he? Or a wide forward anyway. Wide forward maybe, but not a traditional winger, no more so than Ben Arfa IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hatem+Ben+Arfa+Bolton+Wanderers+v+Newcastle+h7gr9uNqrFBl.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hatem+Ben+Arfa+Bolton+Wanderers+v+Newcastle+h7gr9uNqrFBl.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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