joeyt Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The fat joke is getting old tbh. He's only 26 tbf :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Superb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The fat joke is getting old tbh. He's only 26 tbf well done man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab To be honest... the farther away from our training staff the better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab I don't think it's a huge issue really. They know him there, there'll be doctors he's worked with since he was a kid, it's where he went after his leg break. If anything it makes more sense to send him there than keep him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab I don't think it's a huge issue really. They know him there, there'll be doctors he's worked with since he was a kid, it's where he went after his leg break. If anything it makes more sense to send him there than keep him here. But the temptation is just too great. Non? http://aspergersme.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/frenchfancies.jpg?w=604&h=453 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab I don't think it's a huge issue really. They know him there, there'll be doctors he's worked with since he was a kid, it's where he went after his leg break. If anything it makes more sense to send him there than keep him here. Pun? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Flair player=lazy and nightclubbing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Doesn't track back enough, shies form a tackle, doesn't do enough, in my opinion. <tries to think of more Sounessisms> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab I don't think it's a huge issue really. They know him there, there'll be doctors he's worked with since he was a kid, it's where he went after his leg break. If anything it makes more sense to send him there than keep him here. Also probably helps keep him happy, which is a good thing. He might be one of those players, like Cantona, where you can't afford to follow all the normal rules. Just really needs a proper pre-season to get fit and ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab I don't think it's a huge issue really. They know him there, there'll be doctors he's worked with since he was a kid, it's where he went after his leg break. If anything it makes more sense to send him there than keep him here. Also probably helps keep him happy, which is a good thing. He might be one of those players, like Cantona, where you can't afford to follow all the normal rules. Just really needs a proper pre-season to get fit and ready. Where did this idea of letting highly paid professional footballers go to their home country to recover from injury come from? Ben Arfa and Coloccini allowed to piss off for extended holidays whilst still getting paid amazed me. If that's how we are keeping our players happy there's no hope. Does this mean that whenever a member of our foreign legion fancy an extended holiday at home, they can just pick up an injury, or worse, feign one, and the club will let them swan off to "recuperate"? What other club allows its players to do that? Did Ferguson? The video of Coloccini jumping up and down at a football match in Argentina with a supposed "broken back" made me laugh, only topped by Pardew's comments extolling Coloccini's "professionalism", and then trying to convince us that Ben Arfa works hard at Clairfontaine only for him to come back looking like a pudding. Pardew's "man management" is just as dubious as his team selections and tactics, and, imo, doesn't foster a hard working, professional team ethos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 "only for him to come back looking like a pudding" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Players 'go home' when injured all the time, just usually not for the long periods we seem to allow HBA for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Our mismanagement of HBA this season is all clear to see. f***ing pathetic from the club. This, though, doesn't excuse HBA putting on the fat. just think pardew's been a bit soft on him letting him go back to clairefontaine for rehab I don't think it's a huge issue really. They know him there, there'll be doctors he's worked with since he was a kid, it's where he went after his leg break. If anything it makes more sense to send him there than keep him here. Also probably helps keep him happy, which is a good thing. He might be one of those players, like Cantona, where you can't afford to follow all the normal rules. Just really needs a proper pre-season to get fit and ready. Where did this idea of letting highly paid professional footballers go to their home country to recover from injury come from? Ben Arfa and Coloccini allowed to piss off for extended holidays whilst still getting paid amazed me. If that's how we are keeping our players happy there's no hope. Does this mean that whenever a member of our foreign legion fancy an extended holiday at home, they can just pick up an injury, or worse, feign one, and the club will let them swan off to "recuperate"? What other club allows its players to do that? Did Ferguson? The video of Coloccini jumping up and down at a football match in Argentina with a supposed "broken back" made me laugh, only topped by Pardew's comments extolling Coloccini's "professionalism", and then trying to convince us that Ben Arfa works hard at Clairfontaine only for him to come back looking like a pudding. Pardew's "man management" is just as dubious as his team selections and tactics, and, imo, doesn't foster a hard working, professional team ethos. The Coloccini decision was clearly made to try and butter him up, but why the fuss over the HBA one? Why are we against sending our player to one of the foremost training academies in the world to recover from his injuries, a place where they've dealt with every bump, scrape and strain he's suffered from since he was a kid? Or would you rather he stayed on Tyneside with our fantastic physios? I'm sure the club have the ability to check whether players are feigning injury. Coloccini was probably sent down to the Nuffield for an x-ray or two before deciding whether he was available for selection. We're not that much of a soft touch. I'm also certain this is club policy and has nowt to do with Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The "Ben Arfa's fat" stuff is just getting fucking silly now. He came back looking bulkier, he's not fucking clinically obese. Anyway, how active do people expect him to be when he's laid low with a serious hamstring injury? How can he do any cardio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The "Ben Arfa's fat" stuff is just getting fucking silly now. He came back looking bulkier, he's not fucking clinically obese. Anyway, how active do people expect him to be when he's laid low with a serious hamstring injury? How can he do any cardio? Quite easily actually, not that there's much credibility to this silly discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Think it's a valid concern to be fair, although obviously we don't know all the facts. Football's a team game, and successful teams and squads are normally those who stick together and fight for each other, those that have a fantastic team and squad spirit, leadership and togetherness on and off the pitch. I am sure Pardew and any other manager would do everything in their power to keep them at the club, on the training ground and among the squad. Either Pardew has let them recover elsewhere for medical reasons or personal ones, or a combination of the two. Given we are scrapping against relegation at the minute, it might be sensible to question the club's policies in retrospect. It's fair to question the club's policy here, and I'm curious how it stacks up against other clubs' policies. I know in the past we and other clubs have sent players to specialists in America etc for serious injuries like broken legs and so on (e.g. Shearer). Whether Ben Arfa and Coloccini needed that I don't know, but I do wonder if we'd have been better off having the squad all together, and whether player power has played a part in those decisions. You only have to look at our away record, which is often a measure of a team's character, and it speaks for itself. There is no leadership on the pitch and the team has looked disjointed all season. One thing is for sure though, the club needs to seriously look at its training and conditioning methods because injuries have ruined our season. Had we kept most of our better players fit, as most clubs manage to do, we would not even be talking about this, and nor would we be fighting for our lives at the bottom of the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I get what everyone is saying about letting players swan off etc, but managing a football team is also about making exceptions to the rule for the right player. And as Icke said, the facilities he goes to must be excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I get what everyone is saying about letting players swan off etc, but managing a football team is also about making exceptions to the rule for the right player. And as Icke said, the facilities he goes to must be excellent. Yes but he's our player, he shouldn't be coming back just a few weeks before he's recovered from it should be a few more. Remember he came back in January/February and his general fitness wasn't up to the standard expected when injured. We can't measure his fitness if he's somewhere in France properly using the standards the club uses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I get what everyone is saying about letting players swan off etc, but managing a football team is also about making exceptions to the rule for the right player. And as Icke said, the facilities he goes to must be excellent. Yes but he's our player, he shouldn't be coming back just a few weeks before he's recovered from it should be a few more. Remember he came back in January/February and his general fitness wasn't up to the standard expected when injured. We can't measure his fitness if he's somewhere in France properly using the standards the club uses. Fair point about the fitness, guess we need to communicate better with all parties about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The "Ben Arfa's fat" stuff is just getting fucking silly now. He came back looking bulkier, he's not fucking clinically obese. Anyway, how active do people expect him to be when he's laid low with a serious hamstring injury? How can he do any cardio? You get "fat" by eating too many calories. And there certainly are other methods to keep yourself in shape anyway. (ie, arm-bike machines. ) Not that I particulary think there's a big issue with HBA there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Says a lot about our medical team that we'd rather trust other facilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Says a lot about our medical team that we'd rather trust other facilities. I dunno, isn't it fairly common for clubs to send players away for specialist treatment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The "Ben Arfa's fat" stuff is just getting f***ing silly now. He came back looking bulkier, he's not f***ing clinically obese. Anyway, how active do people expect him to be when he's laid low with a serious hamstring injury? How can he do any cardio? Been trying to say that since this notion that he's overweight came about. Spot on man. You can't really do much cardio when your hamstring is f***ed. He looks like he's hit the weights which could have been something his doctors have told him to do for all we know. Says a lot about our medical team that we'd rather trust other facilities. I dunno, isn't it fairly common for clubs to send players away for specialist treatment? Our facilities are s*** to no? Clairefontaine is a class facility from what I've heard/read. The bigger issue here is that we HAVE to send players away b/c of our s*** facilities for rehab etc. Specialists are always called in to help mend broken bones, ligaments etc. I'm glad that we DO send players to the best doctors in the world - its the rehab part that is in question by many, which is valid, but hopefully one day, our facilities are upgraded and we have a real top rehab and recuperation system for our players hurt and not hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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