AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 So much wrong in one article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What a load of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 'Follow Ciaran Donaghy' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 wouldn't surprise me one bit if martinez goes for him, his value will have plummetted in the last year and he'll be within their range - imagine how good he'd be in their team ffs the great depression btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What an abortion of an article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Is he aware that Ben Arfa has only played like 15 games more than Gouffran in terms of minutes. In 4 years Hatem has accumulated something like 4300minutes for the club while Gouffran has in one and a half soon 3050minutes. If Gouffran scores another 4 and has another 12 assist in the next 20 games I'll be proud and shocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Ciaran Donaghy needs a slap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looked slim last night mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 That article isn't worthy of any words tbh, just everyone blowing raspberries at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Who might bid for him in the summer then? Stoke, Norwich, WBA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 he could easy move to inter or somewhere as well, valencia or wherever we'll not be demanding much money for him, his contract is coming up and the manager has publicly shown he has no interest in the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Ben Arfa - Adored for Doing Nothing Posted: 25/03/2014 17:18 Hatem Ben Arfa is an enigma, wrapped up in a conundrum - to some Newcastle United fans that is, not to me though. He doesn't fool me. Ever since he first broke on to the scene as an enigmatic teenage wunderkind, there has been many who followed his career with great interest. He was touted as being one of the most gifted players to come from the prestigious Clairefontaine Academy and needless to say, when he signed for Newcastle United many NUFC fans were deliriously happy. Finally we had a proper flair player to drool over. Someone who can excite the masses, get bums off seats and drag this club up off its arse by its coat-tails into the top half of the table and beyond. That was then, and this is now. Hatem Ben Arfa's time at Newcastle has been beset by injury problems; his horrific leg break in October 2010, a mere two months into his time at the club, being the worst of them. Add to that Pardew's concerns that he doesn't work hard enough for the team, or that he simply always look out of shape (which is putting it mildly) has ensured that Hatem Ben Arfa has not become the player most Newcastle United fans thought or wanted him to be. This particular fan does not like Hatem Ben Arfa. I think he is lazy, selfish, arrogant and ineffective. I am unwilling to forgive the flaws in his game simply because once or twice a season he looks like a world beater. David Silva looks like a world beater every single game. Luis Suarez has equalled Robbie Fowler's Liverpool record for most goals in a league season, even after missing the first number of games this season. The likes of Oscar at Chelsea, Coutinho at Liverpool, Ross Barkley at Everton, Adam Lallana at Southampton, all produce much, much more for their teams this season than Hatem Ben Arfa has EVER produced at Newcastle United, yet some NUFC fans worship the ground he walks on. Do not simply take my word for it. How about we do a simple compare and contrast with one of our own players; Yoan Gouffran - a player who gets very little praise. Yoan Gouffran has played 42 league games for Newcastle United with nine goals and three assists. Hatem Ben Arfa has played 72 league games for Newcastle United with 13 goals and 15 assists. Gouffran is not a massive offensive threat, yet he has still scored almost as many goals as Ben Arfa has with 30 less games played. Granted, Ben Arfa has provided more assists, but 15 assists in over 70 games equals one assist in nearly every five games - which is shocking for a man whose came is supposedly based upon creating chances. It must also be said that Gouffran is a natural striker who is playing out of position on the wing, while Ben Arfa has always been a winger. Add to this the fact that Gouffran works for the team and not himself, tracks back and covers defensively, you can begin to see why someone would prefer Gouffran's contributions to the team over Ben Arfa's. Following his assist for Cisse's 94th minute winner against Crystal Palace, there have been news stories cropping up about how Newcastle United need to build a team around Ben Arfa. No thanks. Any team taking their guidance from a man who plays solely for himself, is not a team I will be proud of. I understand why some people laud Hatem Ben Arfa. The romanticism that comes with such a player is oft hard to resist, especially at a time when we have so few truly talented players. With the sale of Cabaye one could argue that we lost our only truly gifted player, and in his absence more and more people are looking to Ben Arfa to provide that flair and class which we so desperately crave. People remember players like Peter Beardsley, David Ginola, Rob Lee and Laurent Robert - the latter often being a dead ringer for Ben Arfa in terms of work rate - and want to see that kind of quality again. They think the only person who can provide that spark of magic is Ben Arfa, and they could be right. My point is that I am not going to suffer nine dreadful performances in the hope of one good one. I am not willing to forgive a player who is more hindrance than help more often than not. I am not willing to accept someone with no work rate being selected over someone who gives 100% game in, game out. I have my worries about next season. Honestly, I think we will be in dire straits fighting a relegation battle. When push comes to shove, will I look towards someone like Gouffran who will chase every last ball, make covering last ditch tackles, and will give every last ounce of energy for the team, or will I look towards someone like Hatem Ben Arfa, someone who might win you a game or two with individual class alone, but will actively contribute to a bad performance if he is not on his game. I know which one I will choose. Follow Ciaran Donaghy on Twitter: www.twitter.com/CiaranD1892 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ciaran-donaghy/ben-arfa-adored-for-doing-nothing_b_5020802.html? I bet that fuckwit loves Alan Smith & his ilk. Always running around, diving into tackles, real footballers not like those namby-pamby types who can pass and dribble. Ben Arfa doesn't simply create chances he creates space. When he gets the ball it's rare that the opposition doesn't have 2 or 3 players moving to close him down, creating gaps in their own lines that our players should be moving into. We should be training every day to exploit the gaps made by players like Ben Arfa but the dickhead in charge of us is more concerned about rigid formations and tracking back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Has anyone seen replays of the skill btw for Anita's sitter? Was it as magical as it was at the time? I nearly jizzed when he skipped between the two players (iniesta would have took the dive and screamed) and played the cutback to Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Right it was good, I think most people know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Right it was good, I think most people know that. Yeah, i'm basically saying i'm dying to see it again but sometimes what you think at the match, don't turn out to be as good on the replay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Right it was good, I think most people know that. Yeah, i'm basically saying i'm dying to see it again but sometimes what you think at the match, don't turn out to be as good on the replay... It was good on the highlights on Sky after the Man Utd game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Did you really like it? Did you really like it? Santoon was lovin' it, lovin' it, lovin' it, Santoon lovin' it, like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Has anyone seen replays of the skill btw for Anita's sitter? Was it as magical as it was at the time? I nearly jizzed when he skipped between the two players (iniesta would have took the dive and screamed) and played the cutback to Anita. When the ball broke to Anita I was already wondering about how much time we'd have left to score the equalizer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 That piece of skill for Anita was brilliant. His decision-making has been good the last couple of matches, his releasing of the ball has been better after beating players etc. I really hope he pushes on for the remaining games, it's the most excitement we'll have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Has anyone seen replays of the skill btw for Anita's sitter? Was it as magical as it was at the time? I nearly jizzed when he skipped between the two players (iniesta would have took the dive and screamed) and played the cutback to Anita. When the ball broke to Anita I was already wondering about how much time we'd have left to score the equalizer... I started cheering thinking we had scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Dat time last season(?) when he stopped the ball dead under his foot when someone hoof balled it to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 That article did raise some good points. Not sure about preferring players of Goufran's type, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Dat time last season(?) he stopped the ball dead under his foot when someone hoof balled it to him Wasn't that against Stoke 2 season ago when we finished 5th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 It's mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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