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I still prefer 4-5-1/4-3-3 with the personnel we have in midfield (We have no talented player who is a traditional winger). It is difficult to stick both of the Senegalese in such a formation, though, so we will have to persist with two strikers in all likelihood.

you could go with ba/cisse up front and ben arfa allowed to drift off them so like a 3 up front but very mobile.

 

start them in a 4-4-2 but have the front 4 roam around- just with Ba and Cisse more designed to get quickly into the box, Jonas told to roam more defensively doing basic midfield work as well as showing for the ball, and Ben Arfa cutting in from the right.

 

one reason i wouldn't want to go too far towards a strict 4-3-3 would be limiting the amount of times Ba gets the ball in the box - he's deadly in that situation and can turn crap crosses or passes or positions into goals in the blink of an eye. wouldn't want him ploughing a lonely furrow wide left or owt like that.

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I still prefer 4-5-1/4-3-3 with the personnel we have in midfield (We have no talented player who is a traditional winger). It is difficult to stick both of the Senegalese in such a formation, though, so we will have to persist with two strikers in all likelihood.

you could go with ba/cisse up front and ben arfa allowed to drift off them so like a 3 up front but very mobile.

 

start them in a 4-4-2 but have the front 4 roam around- just with Ba and Cisse more designed to get quickly into the box, Jonas told to roam more defensively doing basic midfield work as well as showing for the ball, and Ben Arfa cutting in from the right.

 

one reason i wouldn't want to go too far towards a strict 4-3-3 would be limiting the amount of times Ba gets the ball in the box - he's deadly in that situation and can turn crap crosses or passes or positions into goals in the blink of an eye. wouldn't want him ploughing a lonely furrow wide left or owt like that.

i quite like the idea of cisse up front as he plays off the defenders shoulder more than ba does, tiote holding with cabaye slightly withdrawn from 3 of ben arfa/marveaux/ba/jonas just doing what they do when we have possession then  working and positioning themselves defensivly the way they did last week when the orthodox 4-4-2 was ditched.

 

 

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Ba's scoring will possibly drop off a bit with Cisse in the team as I suspect he'll probably feel less need to shoulder all the goal scoring burden, he'll cause problems for defenders and feed Cisse with any luck.

 

Nah man, our scoring will just double.

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                                      Tiote    Cabaye

                                                                  Jonas

                    Ben Arfa

                                                          Ba

                                            Cisse

 

Think nearly everyone would like to see a front six looking a bit like that, I would anyway.

 

It could end up a bit too narrow. Could end up with the League's second top scorer finding himself out wide far too often while our new number 9 struggles to bed himself in. Or it could be absolutely lethal.

 

I think Pardew will be able to make it work. When Tiote, Ba, and Cisse get back from the ACON there will be about 2-3 weeks and a game v Wolves to get it together before the derby. Would love to see those 6 absolutely tear into Sunderland.

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                                      Tiote    Cabaye

                                                                  Jonas

                    Ben Arfa

                                                          Ba

                                            Cisse

 

Gorgeous, and you consider if we keep all of these you have say a healthy Marveux into the team and we have some brilliant players there

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Guest VegasToon

Krul

Santon Williamson Colo New LB PLZ

Ben Arfa Tiote Cabaye Jonas

Ba Cisse

 

Looks too good  :frantic:

 

Enrique is the missing link. Could have been part of something special :(

 

Enrique must be regretting that decision left to an inferior side  :D

 

I am off for another wank.  Damn thing has been as hard as a diamond all day.

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I liked Jonas' movement at the weekend when he was in the middle drifting from side to side. So, providing enough width can come from fullback.

 

 

                  Krul

Santon Colo Saylor Left Back

            Tiote Cabaye

                  Jonas

    Ben Arfa              Ba

                  Cisse

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----------------------- Krul

 

-- Simpson -- Taylor -- Coloccini -- Santon

 

--------------- Cabaye -- Tiote

 

-- Gutierrez -----------------------------------

 

-------------------------------------- Ben Arfa

 

------------------- Ba -- Cisse ----------------

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I liked Jonas' movement at the weekend when he was in the middle drifting from side to side. So, providing enough width can come from fullback.

 

 

                  Krul

Santon Colo Saylor Left Back

            Tiote Cabaye

                  Jonas

    Ben Arfa              Ba

                  Cisse

 

Actually think this might work think Jonas would have the ability to track back into the left midfield position when needed but also roam to the ACM position as he wishes. HBA and Jonas play quite well together as both of them are pass and move players, would be a good idea to keep them close to one another when attacking.

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                      Krul

 

Santon  Williamson  Colo  New lb   

 

                    Tiote

 

Ben Arfa    Cabaye      Jonas

 

                          Cisse

                    Ba

 

Or

 

                      Krul

 

Santon  Williamson  Colo  New lb   

 

                   

Cabaye          Tiote            Marveux

   

            Ben Arfa          Cisse

                           

                            Ba

 

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Dunno if I'd go as far as saying its our strongest 11 but I'd like to see:

 

Krul

 

Santon Williamson Colo Ferguson

 

Ben Arfa Cabaye Tiote Jonas

 

          Cisse Ba

 

Forgot how promising Ferguson looked until he came on last week.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Would be nice to try:

 

                  Krul

 

Jonas Williamson Colo Santon

 

                  Tiote

      Guthrie        Cabaye

 

            HBA      Ba

                Cisse

Hmmmmm no it wouldn't.
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                    Krul

        Perch  Willo Colo

Santon                        Ferguson

            Tiote  Cabaye

                    HBA

            Cisse  Demba

 

Inspired by Bordeaux recently :)

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                    Krul

        Perch  Willo Colo

Santon                        Ferguson

            Tiote  Cabaye

                    HBA

            Cisse  Demba

 

Inspired by Bordeaux recently :)

So you'd like to see Jonas dropped to accomodate Perch at centre half? I hope I'm being wooshed here.

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                    Krul

        Perch  Willo Colo

Santon                        Ferguson

            Tiote  Cabaye

                    HBA

            Cisse  Demba

 

Inspired by Bordeaux recently :)

 

Same formation I used to use in CM97/98 - don't think it's worked since. :(

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