gdm Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Because Gouffran isn't a Ba level player, while Remy if you get the best out of him is. Wether that's true or not the club obviously rate him and he appears to be the back up option to Remy so this Best/lovenkrands stuff is nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 As long as Gouffran is better than Shola I don't care. For £1,5m he can be Obertan for all I care. It's not a risk and we are much more comfortable in defence now where we really have been lacking genuine quality. I have no doubt that Cisse will be class and won't get injured. *KNOCKs ON WOOD* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I don't think he can be worse than Shola over 90 minutes, not a chance. Not going to pretend i've watched him play for years but he just cant be or surely we wouldn't be interested regardless of the fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He's definitely not worse than Shola! He'll be a very useful and competent competitor for a starting spot, for definite. Bargain at that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 But most importantly Ian W, you would have been WRONG when you were optimistic that we would bring someone in. That's true. Well fuck me, it seems as you were RIGHT in not panicking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267338/Newcastle-producing-local-Toon-talent-foreign-legion-Jamie-Redknapp.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Redknapp's right, but he writes for the fucking mail. ** Stupid Autocorrect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Redknapp's right, but he rights for the fucking mail. Well it is a conservative paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I'd be very surprised if we signed another forward now. Same. No sign of Van Wolfscock then? His club/agent offered him to us but we weren't interested apparently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I don't get Redknapp's point. We have an Academy and youth teams, but such teams have a very poor record. If that's the standard of our youngsters, doesn't that leave us no option but to buy for the first team? No sensible club uses its first team to develop youngsters. Man U didn't with Wellbeck and Cleverly. They got the mackems and Wigan to do it for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 He writes it about us as a bitterness is there for his oldman from us, every club in the league looks abroad as its cheaper, as for local talent you try and get that through your youth system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 He writes it about us as a bitterness is there for his oldman from us, every club in the league looks abroad as its cheaper, as for local talent you try and get that through your youth system. I thought the article was quite good. He is right about us not producing enough players and trying to develop. Our biggest problem appears to be not having a good structure throughout the club to develop players. Whether we have the right coaches also is debatable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 When the English market has massively inflated prices for average players (Henderson and Downing for example) it's no wonder clubs look abroad. As I said in the other thread it reeks of a little scaremongering from areas of the press/former pro's who are inclined to be slightly anti-Newcastle. Whilst I agree we should be nurturing more local talent, the fact is that our youth and scouting setup has only really been properly established in recent years, we have to wait to see the benefits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITON Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't think redknapp has a valid argument when we have 3 players in the latest u17 England squad, two of them 'local' lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't think redknapp has a valid argument when we have 3 players in the latest u17 England squad, two of them 'local' lads. The problem we have always had is getting them from there to the first team. Although to be fair to Pardew he has tried with loans for Tav / Inman and Dummett. That certainly changed when he came in and he has looked to push Sammy, Fergie etc on. Maybe the biggest problem is they need season long loans first, I just think we need to be doing more work at that under 18 / development level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Was reading something about Sporting Lisbon's financial worries, didn't realise how much of a threat. Guess thats why they want rid of some of their star players (RvW) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 The feeling when Andy Carroll was shitting on the EPL our first season up has to be one of the greater ones in my stint as a Newcastle fan. Can't really remember much of the time before the downfall. But that feeling with a local lad leading the line and beeing a talisman for the club og city is great. Shame it wasn't longlasting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 The feeling when Andy Carroll was shitting on the EPL our first season up has to be one of the greater ones in my stint as a Newcastle fan. Can't really remember much of the time before the downfall. But that feeling with a local lad leading the line and beeing a talisman for the club og city is great. Shame it wasn't longlasting. His non-performance at Man United, which immediately resulted in a slew of "he'll never make it" articles from the national press quickly followed by his hat trick against Villa was fucking sweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 The feeling when Andy Carroll was shitting on the EPL our first season up has to be one of the greater ones in my stint as a Newcastle fan. Can't really remember much of the time before the downfall. But that feeling with a local lad leading the line and beeing a talisman for the club og city is great. Shame it wasn't longlasting. His non-performance at Man United, which immediately resulted in a slew of "he'll never make it" articles from the national press quickly followed by his hat trick against Villa was fucking sweet. It was that header he missed early on, cue Andy Gray saying he's missed his big chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 He writes it about us as a bitterness is there for his oldman from us, every club in the league looks abroad as its cheaper, as for local talent you try and get that through your youth system. I thought the article was quite good. He is right about us not producing enough players and trying to develop. Our biggest problem appears to be not having a good structure throughout the club to develop players. Whether we have the right coaches also is debatable Aye, but that has fuck all to do with signing "forriners". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I think 10 year olds will be inspired enough watching Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/01/24/61634-32666923/ They are also set to table a second bid for Florian Thauvin of Bastia, the France under-21 striker they envisage as playing back-up to Papiss Cissé. Will the madness ever end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 That Redknapp article is poorly written, but that's not too important considering that he's still managed to get his point across. I agree with what he's saying in terms of the larger picture and saying that we're one of many teams that aren't bringing local talent through, or nurturing it. However, his use of other teams as examples of using English players is massively flawed. Liverpool, Man United and Tottenham have more money than us and can afford to pay £20m for Jordan Henderson, £35m for Andy Carroll, and £15m for Wilfred Zaha. None of those players are worth half of what they were bought for and probably not worth a third of that in terms of our recruitment. Also, this made me laugh: "I watched an academy game last week between Chelsea and Charlton and saw two clubs rich with promise. Both have invested money in creating their own talent and it will be interesting to see how those boys progress." Chelsea? Chelsea...? Really? You're going to use Chelsea as an example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Mark Douglas reckons we want 2 more players in before the window close. dunno if that includes the left back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Mark Douglas reckons we want 2 more players in before the window close. dunno if that includes the left back Sissoko and Thauvin. Seems to think Colo is staying as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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