Guest Roger Kint Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Seeing as Campbell is getting a loan lined up very soon we clearly expect to sign someone. The problem with this seemingly easy process is the clown who does the signing, its not the work of a world class DOF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hoping this Campbell loan move will actually happen as SURELY this means we're signing a striker....surely, right?...right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 If we don't buy a striker, we will almost certainly be relegated as there is no way we can rely on Gouffran, Shola and Campbell to provide sufficient goals and anyway Shola is unlikely to stay fit for more than a game or two at a time. problem is we're lightweight upfront and have buffoon of a manager who is not smart enough to work around the above striker shortage a decent manager would get us to january no bother imo by adapting a system to utilise hba, marv, sissoko & cabaye to good effect with gouff and campbell...it'd have to be based on passing and movement though, keeping possession and the ball on the ground hence why we're fucked there's potentially a lot of goals in that midfield, we just have a manager without a scooby how to get them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Might be worth having a look at the goal scoring records of the midfielders you've mentioned there, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Interesting line in Caulkin's latest article... I’m directly aware of one transfer which is good to go in just about every sense but which is being held up because “the people above (Pardew) are the problem.” I'm now of the opinion we're not signing anyone this summer. Kinnear doesn't want to strengthen the team and potentially Pardew's position when his only concern is getting back in the dugout. And I don't imagine the owner is too upset that his mate Joe is telling him to put his wallet away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Interesting line in Caulkin's latest article... I’m directly aware of one transfer which is good to go in just about every sense but which is being held up because “the people above (Pardew) are the problem.” I'm now of the opinion we're not signing anyone this summer. Kinnear doesn't want to strengthen the team and potentially Pardew's position when his only concern is getting back in the dugout. And I don't imagine the owner is too upset that his mate Joe is telling him to put his wallet away. Whilst I'm not sure I entirely agree with the motives you've mentioned, it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. There's a power struggle between Pardew and the board, and only the team will suffer. Not a clue how this is going to end, but it won't be positive. Are you able to post the article, btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 There are twin narratives at St James’ Park this summer; one we can see (mostly) and one we cannot (which is probably just as well). On one side are the players of Newcastle United, the coaching staff, the administrators, the people who work in the ticket office and the club shop, who are doing their jobs in a manner which is more or less visual. On the other, there is Joe Kinnear and, behind him, Mike Ashley. There are two clubs, either getting on with business as usual, or which is still to provide evidence it is doing anything very useful. Some players have left Tyneside – Steve Harper, Danny Simpson, James Perch – but Kinnear’s involvement here was minimal and until or unless the new director of football gives his blessing for a transfer in the opposite direction, Newcastle will be dysfunctional. There is tension at the club, within and without. A concern, based on enough conversations to give it substance, is that the potential is there for a swift unravelling – in those circumstances, my life savings would go on Kinnear returning to the dug-out – and yet positivity could ease matters. A signing would not only provide Alan Pardew with help, it would allow people to exhale, to understand that wheels are still turning. The same applies to something like Papiss Demba Cisse’s dispute with the club over their Wonga sponsorship. The two parties are talking, the Professional Footballers’ Association has expressed optimism that a compromise is at hand and while nobody will persuade me that Kinnear can be intrinsically involved in an issue which involves the complexity of ethics, contracts, religion, money and so on, resolution would be evidence of normality. That is important. Really important. I’m directly aware of one transfer which is good to go in just about every sense but which is being held up because “the people above (Pardew) are the problem.” Deals are horrifically complicated these days, but it is heightened by a sense of limbo at Newcastle. Getting something “over the line,” to use Pardew’s parlance, would (could) release the logjam. So, to the supporters who naturally want to know whether signings are imminent, the answer is yes, no and maybe. It cannot be anything else because, ultimately, they are the preserve of one man. Pardew is right when he says he is “pushing hard to get things done,” and right when he says “it is important now that the message we give out is strong.” That message is: get on with it, Joe. Hence the tension. Anyway, this wasn’t supposed to be a column about Kinnear, but more of a reflection of a club in two parts. Until the season starts we cannot judge whether it is a mirage or not, but the feeling I had from four days in Portugal at their pre-season training base was that the playing part of Newcastle is focussing right down. Any bombast from last year is gone. They are stripped back to the sinew. Steven Taylor stood by Braga’s training pitch, sweat streaming from him. In the past, the centre-half has been prone to the odd bit of bluster, but there was none of it here. “Listen, the feeling everybody has got is that we just have to look at Manchester City and then take it from there,” he said. “That’s how we did it a couple of years ago, we looked at it from game to game. We let everyone say what they wanted and focused only on ourselves. “Manchester City on that first Monday night is all we’re looking at, all we’re thinking about. That was one of our biggest problems last year; everyone was saying we need to be back in the top ten, we need to be back in Europe, we need to do this and that. We set ourselves high goals and it just didn’t happen. Even within the team, we were saying we were going to do this or that, but it doesn’t always work like that. “This time, we’re making a conscious effort to narrow things down, concentrate on our work and let everything else take care of itself. Last season was a dent to our egos, there’s no getting away from it. Europe was a big factor in that. You’ve got to realise that we had a small squad for it, we had players playing and traveling and fatigue does come into it. I don’t think we were quite ready for it as a club. I don’t think we were as fit as we could have been for Europe if I’m being perfectly honest with you. “It’s a whole new season now, the lads have come back in really good shape and we have to make sure we’re strong for the games in the Premier League, no matter who we play. The perfect example is a team like Bayern Munich – they’re right at the top of the pecking order for everything. They’re not only brilliant players, but they out-run everybody for the entirety of games. They look like machines. For 90 odd minutes they have players flying forward instead of just holding on to a 1-0 win and being a bit sluggish. Our main aim is to do the same in terms of trying to kill teams off.” Footballers can find excuses, but they are closing their eyes to them. For now, at least. “It wouldn’t be Newcastle if there wasn’t something going on around the club,” Taylor said. “Every year we get the same thing. I’m sure outsiders love it because they can get amongst it, but we can only do what we’re here to do. “If you allow yourself to get distracted by other stuff it can become an excuse for failure, so players have to put themselves in a bubble and concentrate on the things they can control and that’s fitness, hard work, training, matches. Nobody has complained once. Everyone gets on with their jobs and whatever happens upstairs doesn’t matter, because we’re the ones that have to do the talking on the pitch.” A signing or two would not go amiss, but that was a bear trap which Taylor side-stepped. “That’s up to the people upstairs,” he said. “I’m just a player and I need to make sure I do my job, that I’m fit and ready for selection. That’s all I can do. Whatever happens, happens.” One half of Newcastle is stained by effort. The other? The wait continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. genuine question but how did you reach this conclusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/soccer?iso=20130902T17&p0=136&fg1=000&msg=Transfer+window+slams+shut! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Might be worth having a look at the goal scoring records of the midfielders you've mentioned there, like. no, i'm aware, doesn't mean it's impossible to coax a working system out of them imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. genuine question but how did you reach this conclusion? A more pertinent question, considering the information and evidence available to us all, would be: How can anyone not reach that conclusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I think it's more likely that Kinnear just isn't capable of doing his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I think it's more likely that Kinnear just isn't capable of doing his job. Or he can't read or write. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 "Last season was a dent to our egos, there’s no getting away from it. Europe was a big factor in that. You’ve got to realise that we had a small squad for it, we had players playing and traveling and fatigue does come into it. I don’t think we were quite ready for it as a club. I don’t think we were as fit as we could have been for Europe if I’m being perfectly honest with you." Fucking hell who would have thought you would have to travel to play in europe. That heavily rotated squad must have been knackered getting on and off the plane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Interesting line in Caulkin's latest article... I’m directly aware of one transfer which is good to go in just about every sense but which is being held up because “the people above (Pardew) are the problem.” I'm now of the opinion we're not signing anyone this summer. Kinnear doesn't want to strengthen the team and potentially Pardew's position when his only concern is getting back in the dugout. And I don't imagine the owner is too upset that his mate Joe is telling him to put his wallet away. Obviously Bent he's on about there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 You're going to have to explain that one to me, like. /inochi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. genuine question but how did you reach this conclusion? A more pertinent question, considering the information and evidence available to us all, would be: How can anyone not reach that conclusion? so no evidence of anything = evidence now does it? /inochi Pardew has repeatedly stated he wants players including some he has personally identified, no players are forthcoming & bids for players have been at best thin on ground despite a 'specialist' (who happens to be an ally of the owner) being appointed to oversee such activity. I think it's easy to assume what Inochi stated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Nobody needs any evidence for conclusions, especially negative ones. It's how we roll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 nah Good talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 As we stand now on 25th July the theory that Kinnear has been brought in to take the flack for no signings by Ashley is as strong as any in my opinion. Hope to god it gets proved wrong but here we still are with zero signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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