midds Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dropping him now is only going to dent his confidence even more imo. Needs an arm round the shoulder, show a bit of faith in him and let him play himself out of his little rut and into a bit of form. Benching him doesn't solve the problem. He needs a goal to get him up and running. I've seen enough of him already to know the quality is there. He's not turned into a shit player over the summer. It'll turn for him soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dropping him now is only going to dent his confidence even more imo. Needs an arm round the shoulder, show a bit of faith in him and let him play himself out of his little rut and into a bit of form. Benching him doesn't solve the problem. He needs a goal to get him up and running. I've seen enough of him already to know the quality is there. He's not turned into a s*** player over the summer. It'll turn for him soon enough. Agreed. He's not the Ba type to get fired up after being dropped, things will come his way, it just requires patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 His form last season was sensational. He had a lot to live up to. It will come. Patients people. http://i.imgur.com/gHxDI.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dinho- you're so fucking thick its actually painful to draw attention to it. Yeah, I got it that you were saying it with a hint of tongue in cheek, but let's face it.... everyone here knows you're the biggest drama bitch on this board, so I wouldn't be one bit surprised if you suddenly think Cisse has turned shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dropping him now is only going to dent his confidence even more imo. Needs an arm round the shoulder, show a bit of faith in him and let him play himself out of his little rut and into a bit of form. Benching him doesn't solve the problem. He needs a goal to get him up and running. I've seen enough of him already to know the quality is there. He's not turned into a s*** player over the summer. It'll turn for him soon enough. Agreed. He's not the Ba type to get fired up after being dropped, things will come his way, it just requires patience. He should play in the cup games, but if he doesn't do it then, benched for the league games. No player deserves to start regardless of effort or form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dinho- you're so fucking thick its actually painful to draw attention to it. Yeah, I got it that you were saying it with a hint of tongue in cheek, but let's face it.... everyone here knows you're the biggest drama bitch on this board, so I wouldn't be one bit surprised if you suddenly think Cisse has turned shit. I respect your views but by god, you've made a complete buffoon out of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm not that averse to dropping him, he's only been dropped once for us so far (after Sunderland for the trip to Arsenal last year) and he came back in and completely blitzed it. I'm not sure we've anyone to bring in who is worth dropping him for though. Don't want to see Shola from the start and don't think we've got any wingers who can play that advanced role very effectively, other than Ben Arfa of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Smiles too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dinho- you're so fucking thick its actually painful to draw attention to it. Yeah, I got it that you were saying it with a hint of tongue in cheek, but let's face it.... everyone here knows you're the biggest drama bitch on this board, so I wouldn't be one bit surprised if you suddenly think Cisse has turned shit. I respect your views but by god, you've made a complete buffoon out of yourself. Oh, and you're sooooooo charismatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dropping him now is only going to dent his confidence even more imo. Needs an arm round the shoulder, show a bit of faith in him and let him play himself out of his little rut and into a bit of form. Benching him doesn't solve the problem. He needs a goal to get him up and running. I've seen enough of him already to know the quality is there. He's not turned into a s*** player over the summer. It'll turn for him soon enough. Agreed. He's not the Ba type to get fired up after being dropped, things will come his way, it just requires patience. He should play in the cup games, but if he doesn't do it then, benched for the league games. No player deserves to start regardless of effort or form. Firstly, I'd say your comments on effort are a little harsh, I think he's generally putting in a shift. Secondly, this lad has a proven track record as a prolific goalscorer, his ability is too important to simply just leave out when the domestic campaign is only 5 games old. His reputation does precede him and rightfully so, he's earned that reputation and the right to have a bit of faith and patience shown in him. I'd agree with your opinion if he was playing the same way in another 5 league matches though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He should play in the cup games, but if he doesn't do it then, benched for the league games. No player deserves to start regardless of effort or form. Sorry but Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm sure a one goal, no matter how it comes will make a world of difference to Papiss. The same with Ba last season. One difference at times Ba played well last season but missed the goald, Cisse has been poor this season but they are different type of player. Cisse is a goal scorer Ba has a more all round game. Cisse showed enough qualities last season to suggest it wasn't a fluke or an amazing honeymoon period. He hasn't become shit over night, he is just playing shit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He will start scoring again it's just that it looks like it will take a while to get the vibe back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm not that averse to dropping him, he's only been dropped once for us so far (after Sunderland for the trip to Arsenal last year) and he came back in and completely blitzed it. I'm not sure we've anyone to bring in who is worth dropping him for though. Don't want to see Shola from the start and don't think we've got any wingers who can play that advanced role very effectively, other than Ben Arfa of course. Sameobi / Amalfitano / Obertan could probably do it an unpredictable standard. Not exactly stellar options though hence why our lack of strengthening in the summer was a bit of a pisser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Sameobi / Amalfitano / Obertan could probably do it an unpredictable standard. Not exactly stellar options though hence why our lack of strengthening in the summer was a bit of a pisser. I wouldn't put any of those in ahead of Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm not that averse to dropping him, he's only been dropped once for us so far (after Sunderland for the trip to Arsenal last year) and he came back in and completely blitzed it. I'm not sure we've anyone to bring in who is worth dropping him for though. Don't want to see Shola from the start and don't think we've got any wingers who can play that advanced role very effectively, other than Ben Arfa of course. Sameobi / Amalfitano / Obertan could probably do it an unpredictable standard. Not exactly stellar options though hence why our lack of strengthening in the summer was a bit of a pisser. Exactly mate, I don't want any of them starting unless they force their way in with eye-catching performances from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dropping him now is only going to dent his confidence even more imo. Needs an arm round the shoulder, show a bit of faith in him and let him play himself out of his little rut and into a bit of form. Benching him doesn't solve the problem. He needs a goal to get him up and running. I've seen enough of him already to know the quality is there. He's not turned into a s*** player over the summer. It'll turn for him soon enough. Agreed. He's not the Ba type to get fired up after being dropped, things will come his way, it just requires patience. He should play in the cup games, but if he doesn't do it then, benched for the league games. No player deserves to start regardless of effort or form. Firstly, I'd say your comments on effort are a little harsh, I think he's generally putting in a shift. Secondly, this lad has a proven track record as a prolific goalscorer, his ability is too important to simply just leave out when the domestic campaign is only 5 games old. His reputation does precede him and rightfully so, he's earned that reputation and the right to have a bit of faith and patience shown in him. I'd agree with your opinion if he was playing the same way in another 5 league matches though. 10 league matches of shite performances? No thanks, we've got other games we can play him in until he finds his feet.vim not talking about sticking him there forever, just till he picks up and he can do that against lesser opposition or less important games while in form Ba can do the league. It's not like he's just going to remain there long term or not get off the bench for Ba who tires after 60mins every game anyway. Also this Cisse against the mackems? No thanks, far too important a game to pander to one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Who would you bring in for him then, TT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Who would you bring in for him then, TT? 451 Ba upfront, Jonas left, hba right, Cabaye, Tiote & anita in mid with Cabaye further forward. Or Bigi in for Anita if he's needed at fullback or in for Tiote if he's injured/suspended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Sameobi / Amalfitano / Obertan could probably do it an unpredictable standard. Not exactly stellar options though hence why our lack of strengthening in the summer was a bit of a pisser. I wouldn't put any of those in ahead of Cisse. I'm not that averse to dropping him, he's only been dropped once for us so far (after Sunderland for the trip to Arsenal last year) and he came back in and completely blitzed it. I'm not sure we've anyone to bring in who is worth dropping him for though. Don't want to see Shola from the start and don't think we've got any wingers who can play that advanced role very effectively, other than Ben Arfa of course. Sameobi / Amalfitano / Obertan could probably do it an unpredictable standard. Not exactly stellar options though hence why our lack of strengthening in the summer was a bit of a pisser. Exactly mate, I don't want any of them starting unless they force their way in with eye-catching performances from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Don't know how anyone could be worried about him. I only get worried about shit players, cisse is a great player. Wouldn't consider dropping him for a second. I do think he needs to aim for scoring a percentage goal though rather than a twenty yard volley or some shit like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Don't know how anyone could be worried about him. I only get worried about shit players, cisse is a great player. Wouldn't consider dropping him for a second. I do think he needs to aim for scoring a percentage goal though rather than a twenty yard volley or some shit like that As I said earlier, IMO he's just trying too hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Who would you bring in for him then, TT? 451 Ba upfront, Jonas left, hba right, Cabaye, Tiote & anita in mid with Cabaye further forward. Or Bigi in for Anita if he's needed at fullback or in for Tiote if he's injured/suspended. I personally don't think Jonas carries enough of a threat going forward these days to justify that. As Disco says this is exactly why we should have signed another attacking player in the summer, bit of a lack of alternatives in those positions when players are out of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He's getting chances... he's gonna stick one away sooner rather than later. I'd rather he be missing chances than not getting any at all, big cliche but its true. I was irate when he got the penalty mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Are we discovering that Cissé scores goals in a 4-4-3 and Ba scores goals in a 4-4-2? I'd start Cissé on Wednesday alongside Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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