Dave Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Unless I've read it wrong, more people said they'd see Cisse leave before Tiote in the Chronicle survey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Cisse's going nowhere. We'll be very thankful of that come Christmas when he's the only one scoring our goals again. If we are relying on just him to get us goals we might as well swap places with wigan, get relegation over and done with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Unless I've read it wrong, more people said they'd see Cisse leave before Tiote in the Chronicle survey. Aye, found that interesting in amidst all the shite. Tend to agree with the result when compared to the other players present in the pie chart, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Unless I've read it wrong, more people said they'd see Cisse leave before Tiote in the Chronicle survey. Astonishing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I for one desperately hope we don't sell Cisse. Some people don't seem to grasp how detrimental a high turnover of players is and think we can just swap players in and out easily as long as they're better than what you've got. Quite apart from the fact that finding a better striker than Cisse would be incredibly difficult, it simply doesn't work like that. He's one of the players we simply cannot lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Cisse only played a few games out wide before Christmas like, even a seasoned Pardew hater like me would admit that. Not very suited to a 442, mind. He's not suited to much imo. He's a square-wondergoal'd peg that we're trying to fit in the proverbial round hole. Agreed. Bit weird how he's scored so many goals wherever he's played then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I for one desperately hope we don't sell Cisse. Some people don't seem to grasp how detrimental a high turnover of players is and think we can just swap players in and out easily as long as they're better than what you've got. Quite apart from the fact that finding a better striker than Cisse would be incredibly difficult, it simply doesn't work like that. He's one of the players we simply cannot lose. Wullie's on point here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Cisse's going nowhere. We'll be very thankful of that come Christmas when he's the only one scoring our goals again. If we are relying on just him to get us goals we might as well swap places with wigan, get relegation over and done with. That's my point, we shouldn't. However he's a goalscorer - There's nothing wrong with having a player in the team only geared towards scoring goals, as long as everyone else does their job properly. It's no secret we need someone to compliment him up top, score goals as well, play Cisse in, pull defenders away for advancing midfielders (remember them). Get rid of Cisse and we need 2 top quality additions that perform from the very start of the season. That wouldn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I for one desperately hope we don't sell Cisse. Some people don't seem to grasp how detrimental a high turnover of players is and think we can just swap players in and out easily as long as they're better than what you've got. Quite apart from the fact that finding a better striker than Cisse would be incredibly difficult, it simply doesn't work like that. He's one of the players we simply cannot lose. Especially considering one of the reasons given for our poor season was that the new players came in at the wrong time and/or haven't settled yet. The coaching staff need to work on Cisse, he made many of the same mistakes all season. The quality is there, it needs managing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. It will be the biggest "I told you so" fest in the history of football forums. Be warned in advance because I know there is nothing more annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. Not worth it , who can live 4 weeks without N-O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. Not worth it , who can live 4 weeks without N-O Good point. two weeks is bad enough honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. In all honesty I Couldn't see Carroll struggling to get around 8 league goals for us, even with his injuries. I'd imagine he'd do a lot more for his team as well, not just assists (hanz) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. Not worth it , who can live 4 weeks without N-O Good point. two weeks is bad enough honestly. You must have instantly facepalmed after hitting post for your last ban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. In all honesty I Couldn't see Carroll struggling to get around 8 league goals for us, even with his injuries. I'd imagine he'd do a lot more for his team as well, not just assists (hanz) I think Cisse's massively underrated by a lot of fans, his hold up play is a lot better than people give him credit for when the ball is played to feet. Carroll is a threat in the air but he doesn't have the goal poacher's instinct that cisse does and Cisse could easily hit 20 goals next season, given some proper service from the wide men. But we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Goals win games, we don't have many goals in the team. So don't sell the fucking bloke that scores most of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. Not worth it , who can live 4 weeks without N-O Good point. two weeks is bad enough honestly. You must have instantly facepalmed after hitting post for your last ban It is a shameful episode which I have put behind me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. In all honesty I Couldn't see Carroll struggling to get around 8 league goals for us, even with his injuries. I'd imagine he'd do a lot more for his team as well, not just assists (hanz) I think Cisse's massively underrated by a lot of fans, his hold up play is a lot better than people give him credit for when the ball is played to feet. Carroll is a threat in the air but he doesn't have the goal poacher's instinct that cisse does and Cisse could easily hit 20 goals next season, given some proper service from the wide men. But we'll see. He's just a poacher for me, relies heavily on service and creates nothing for others. I don't mind that when the rest of the team are doing their jobs correctly to feed the poacher, but they aren't and even though he scores our goals for most of the game he's nothing more than a passenger. Carroll I reckon (and always have) would be brilliant alongside him, bring him in to the game and allow some pressure off him and give him some space and time, not just the knock downs etc a big man provides. I certainly don't want to replace Cisse with Carroll, both together or two new strikers such as bony & auba which for me would work even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 http://www.nufc.com/ Following press speculation of interest from Russian side Anzhi Makhachkala in Newcastle's Papiss Cisse - and rumours of an €18m (£15.4m) bid - supporting quotes attributed to the player's agent, Nickolay Guido were widely reported on Friday. Within 24 hours however, Guido responded by denying that he'd made any such statement - and confirming that he hasn't represented the Magpies striker for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Realistically, if a club is offering you far more than a player is worth, then you should take it. Firstly Cisse is worth more than £20Mil - the guy is a 'proven' goal scorer in the Premiership and the goals he scores are utter class. When you think up until January Pardew had him playing out wide, to finish the year with 13 goals for the service he got was nothing sort of brilliant. If it wasn't for his goals we would be down. Which takes me to my next point - EVEN if you thought £20Mil was good for him, you need to take into account the loss to the club should the lack of his goals next year send us down. We cannot go into next season without 'at least' one striker who has proved he can score goals in this league. Cisse is clearly seriously under rated. At the end of last season before last when he was scoring goals from everywhere would you have said then £20Mil was a fair price? I am not convinced you would. We have one bad season and suddenly people become bad players? I would even throw Tiote in that bracket. We need to keep this squad together - it was this group of players who got us a whisker away from Champions League football. I am not saying they will again but it certainly shows the potential of the team. We need to be adding to it not selling any of our best players, whatever the price. Cause you never know if the replacement will be half as good. Just look at Ba - so far Gouffran is the only striker to come in. And lets be honest he is average at best. And the joke being? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option. I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year. If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable. Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind. It will be the biggest "I told you so" fest in the history of football forums. Be warned in advance because I know there is nothing more annoying. Bigger than the way you bang on about Pardew and will even more so if/when he goes? That sort of 'I told you so fest' will take some beating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I love the idea that Carroll will suddenly come in and become Mara-fucking-dona and score 30 goals for us, all by himself, launching himself at every Williamson Hollywood pass, controlling it with his ponytail and bicycle-kicking every goal into the top corner. WTF are some people on here thinking. Cisse is in a different league (better league) compared to Carroll, who will regress our team play even further under the donkey of a manager we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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