TRon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Here's another idea.....how about playing wide players who can cross the ball? Daring and innovative I realise, but it just might work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Here's another idea.....how about playing wide players who can cross the ball? Daring and innovative I realise, but it just might work I agree with you, but do we have any? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He's probably out of confidence because he's stuck on the wing. The man is a goal machine, wonder how Shearer or Ferdinand would have faired if they were stuck out wide. It's not like he has any of the qualities to play out there at all. Imagine if you scored 12 in 13 then got told "actually your going on wing for a bit, our other striker wants to be the main man" I'd be furious. Isn't that essentially what we told Ba in the second half of last season though..? Also, his confidence was shot long before he was tried on the wings, which has only happened in the last two games and worked quite well in the first of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Here's another idea.....how about playing wide players who can cross the ball? Daring and innovative I realise, but it just might work I agree with you, but do we have any? Shane 'he's shit if he starts' Ferguson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Here's another idea.....how about playing wide players who can cross the ball? Daring and innovative I realise, but it just might work I agree with you, but do we have any? Well there's Pardew's own special purchase, Obertan, but of course he can't cross either but he can track back like a champ so obviously that's a Pardew wankfest waiting to happen. Not much use to Cisse though. Marveaux as part of a front 3 might be worth a look, as along with HBA and Ferguson he's probably got the best delivery from a wide position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Aye, I would be tempted to try Marveaux on the left as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Really don't know what to do with Cisse at the moment. Take him Christmas shopping? Think he'd get bored quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He'd be constantly taking clothes with tags on just the wrong side of the security barriers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lotus Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He'd be constantly taking clothes with tags on just the wrong side of the security barriers. The truth though is that he's used to an early ball rather than someone dallying about wondering what to do before releasing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He's been genuinely poor recently. Why is he always offside? People make excuses for him that he's being played out wide but he's offside 5 times a game minimum indicating he's on the edge of the last defender. He had a great chance yesterday but he was offside and he still didn't score. Shouldn't be starting. End of. He actually got himself into better positions than Ba yesterday and wasted them by being offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Marveaux's best game for us came at the head of a midfield 3. Now people want to play him wide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Playing him in the middle for 90 minutes in a 4-3-3 formation would certainly help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Drop him, preferably from the tyne bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Playing him in the middle for 90 minutes in a 4-3-3 formation would certainly help. What has he done to deserve that? He can't even stay onside from the right wing ffs. Yesterday we rotated in the first half and he played up top in the second half. Shit throughout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Playing him in the middle for 90 minutes in a 4-3-3 formation would certainly help. What has he done to deserve that? He can't even stay onside from the right wing ffs. Yesterday we rotated in the first half and he played up top in the second half. Shit throughout. That spell from January to May last season. Nowt else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Playing him in the middle for 90 minutes in a 4-3-3 formation would certainly help. What has he done to deserve that? He can't even stay onside from the right wing ffs. Yesterday we rotated in the first half and he played up top in the second half. Shit throughout. Well, he scored a remarkable amount of goals last season. It's not even about whether he 'deserves' to play centrally or not. That's his position, it's where he has to play to be worth anything. And throughout his career he has shown he'll return a large amount of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He hasn't looked the same player this season, especially these last few weeks. Ba for me has been the better player this season and should lead our line in a 4-3-3. Cisse has had chances recently and he's either wasted them or been offside. That's nobody's fault but his own. In the last few games he's been in the box a lot of the time. He's been shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Playing him in the middle for 90 minutes in a 4-3-3 formation would certainly help. What has he done to deserve that? He can't even stay onside from the right wing ffs. Yesterday we rotated in the first half and he played up top in the second half. s*** throughout. Well, he scored a remarkable amount of goals last season. It's not even about whether he 'deserves' to play centrally or not. That's his position, it's where he has to play to be worth anything. And throughout his career he has shown he'll return a large amount of goals. Agreed. He has clearly demonstrated his talents in the past, and is going through a rough patch. Either drop him to the bench or play him centrally. Simple. I don't see Fergie sticking RVP on the right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He's an out and out goal poacher, he simply isn't good enough to play out wide creating stuff. We signed him as a goal scorer so he should be played there. Absolute fucking madness that's not to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Playing him in the middle for 90 minutes in a 4-3-3 formation would certainly help. What has he done to deserve that? He can't even stay onside from the right wing ffs. Yesterday we rotated in the first half and he played up top in the second half. s*** throughout. Well, he scored a remarkable amount of goals last season. It's not even about whether he 'deserves' to play centrally or not. That's his position, it's where he has to play to be worth anything. And throughout his career he has shown he'll return a large amount of goals. Agreed. He has clearly demonstrated his talents in the past, and is going through a rough patch. Either drop him to the bench or play him centrally. Simple. I don't see Fergie sticking RVP on the right... RVP has played on the left on occasion. He's also scoring goals. cisse played most of yesterday down the middle and was woeful. IMO Cisse should be benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He hasn't looked the same player this season, especially these last few weeks. Ba for me has been the better player this season and should lead our line in a 4-3-3. Cisse has had chances recently and he's either wasted them or been offside. That's nobody's fault but his own. In the last few games he's been in the box a lot of the time. He's been s***. Cisse has never played out wide in his life! Of course he has to play centrally if we wnat to see the best of him. Yeah, he's had a slow start, but the way to get him to snap out of it, is to make him as comfortable as possible. At the very least both he and Ba should rotate positions at least some of the time, or per half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It's simple that either him or Ba needs to be dropped rather than trying to play both as Cisse is the least capable of playing anywhere but up top. Ba has the movement and unpredictability and is the better footballer of the two and if anything he should drop back to Left. However I would rather we dropped one and have a go with Ben Arfa and Marveux. Or failing that maybe Oberwank on the right/left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He's an out and out goal poacher, he simply isn't good enough to play out wide creating stuff. We signed him as a goal scorer so he should be played there. Absolute f***ing madness that's not to be honest. Yep. Play him through the middle in a front 3 and he'll score for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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