mrmojorisin75 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 MoN's problem has always been that he doesn't really trust foreign players so he ends up paying over the odds for British players. Unless you can afford the very best that means you can end up with a team that's hard working and committed but not quite good enough to challenge for the European slots. Then he gets pissed of with coming up short after a couple of years and resigns. don't you mean once, at villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 McClean put two on a plate this evening btw. His teammates fucked up what should have been two assists. Looks a good player to me, even if he is one ugly cunt. mm yeh i think he will be a decent player. a lot to learn, but got a lot. think a lot of the mockery here it ott. they have done v well since MONg took over and have a great chance of reaching wembley (and could beat a poor liverpool side and nick out european spot) few temping fate me thinks Agree. Even though they're fairly average unfortunately so are Everton/Liverpool. Daft mackems will probably fuck it up but think I'll keep my powder try to they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 What's this head-start bollocks they're going on about They're not right in the head Aye reckoning that if they'd had MON from the the start of the season, they would be closer to or above us now - this despite ignoring the fact he's still only made up 2 points on us since he took over, too. But that the Spackems for you - they are more bothered about how or whether they could/would have been above us, rather than reflecting on the fact that they were (arguably) heading for relegation trouble before he came in, and will probably now finish respecfully in mid-upper half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Someone was asking for it before. Data sourced from BBC http://i40.tinypic.com/2ytwojn.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 MoN is an above average manager ? That remains to be seen. Nothing I've seen so far in his career would suggest that. what? what do you class as an average manager then? MON is just an Irish KK. Above average motivator, lacking in the other skills needed to be a decent manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Someone was asking for it before. Data sourced from BBC http://i40.tinypic.com/2ytwojn.png Been like that since oniell took over really. On borrowed time playing that way. Energy and cheating has helped them thus far but their manager is going to have to figure out how to do something different eventually. That's not what he's good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I thought, or at least hoped, sooner or later the Mackemfag players would realise MONg is a one trick pony and begin to pay less and less attention to his 'big em up' bollox. Fair enough gets some results but can it be maintained long term? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 MON is just an Irish KK. Above average motivator, lacking in the other skills needed to be a decent manager. Derp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Someone was asking for it before. Data sourced from BBC http://i40.tinypic.com/2ytwojn.png 2.5 shots on target per game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 2.5 shots on target per game It drops to 1 average in the last 3 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Someone was asking for it before. Data sourced from BBC http://i40.tinypic.com/2ytwojn.png ***** NB ***** !! VERY IMPORTANT !! PLEASE DISREGARD MISLEADING STATISTICS RELATING TO NEWCASTLE (A) Everyone (well Madman O'Niell, a few dimwit mackems and fawning journalists, anyway) knows that Sunderland in fact totally dominated that match, they were very unlucky not to win it, the opposition did not miss a penalty or smack the crossbar and Newcastle are now worried about Sunderland dominating north-east football for the forseeable future and are already green with envy about the player's O'Niell will bring to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 MoN's problem has always been that he doesn't really trust foreign players so he ends up paying over the odds for British players. Unless you can afford the very best that means you can end up with a team that's hard working and committed but not quite good enough to challenge for the European slots. Then he gets pissed of with coming up short after a couple of years and resigns. don't you mean once, at villa? Villa's really the only real barometer though. His side at Leicester was fairly basic and route one and it's hard to judge his time in Scottish football with it being a sub-standard league. He spent a lot of money at Villa to stand still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Could someone please tell me what O'Neill has done for him to have the status many give him ? It's not even as if his teams play stuff that's good to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 MoN is an above average manager ? That remains to be seen. Nothing I've seen so far in his career would suggest that. what? what do you class as an average manager then? MON is just an Irish KK. Above average motivator, lacking in the other skills needed to be a decent manager. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Anyone who saw the transformation under Keegan first time round would see there was so much more than motivation involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Some people are thick. I guess the players were just so motivated under Keegan that they magically played such great pass and move football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Some people are thick. I guess the players were just so motivated under Keegan that they magically played such great pass and move football? Aye. The transformation of Allardyces fear-ridden squad into a slick passing unit was down to Keggy's cheer leading antics. Nowt to do with withdrawing Owen into role as the head of a midfield diamond and setting up a midfield trio which made the best use of Geremi and Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 MoN's problem has always been that he doesn't really trust foreign players so he ends up paying over the odds for British players. Unless you can afford the very best that means you can end up with a team that's hard working and committed but not quite good enough to challenge for the European slots. Then he gets pissed of with coming up short after a couple of years and resigns. don't you mean once, at villa? Villa's really the only real barometer though. His side at Leicester was fairly basic and route one and it's hard to judge his time in Scottish football with it being a sub-standard league. He spent a lot of money at Villa to stand still. leicester weren't great but they certainly weren't hoofball merchants either, lets not forget he won the league cup twice with them as well this is getting out of hand, let's assume there are the following broad categories of manager: shit poor average above average good great o'neill is somewhere between above average and good for me, keegan for a time burned between good and looking great but ultimately he'll never be viewed as anything more than above average imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Someone was asking for it before. Data sourced from BBC http://i40.tinypic.com/2ytwojn.png Wow. We all suspected they had been riding their luck big time, guess this proves it. Honeymoon definitely over now like, looks like Sess will be off in summer, McLean has been sussed and can't see MON being given much to spend - continued mediocrity beckons I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Fucking hell. Are people seriously debating the calibre of manager Keegan was? He's not up in the SAF/Arsene/Rafa/Mourinho/Pep catagory etc, but what he did for this club, he can never be classed anything lower than great. Anyone who think's he's average is completely wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Could someone please tell me what O'Neill has done for him to have the status many give him ? It's not even as if his teams play stuff that's good to watch. He jumps up and down a lot and sucks up to the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 How the hell do we get fined £40k and them £20k for failing to control our players when they had two sent off, one for violent conduct and the other for disrespecting the referee...,after the final fuking whistle!? FA showing they are a fuking joke, at every single level and decision they make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Someone was asking for it before. Data sourced from BBC http://i40.tinypic.com/2ytwojn.png Wow. We all suspected they had been riding their luck big time, guess this proves it. Arsenal Home - Two Own Goals West Brom away - N/A Newcastle home - Several clear penalty decisions denied, soft one given, Liverpool home - scored very, very, very lucky goal against a poor liverpool team Everton - Very lucky to get through it, two obvious penalties not given, Blackburn - N/a You can go through the entire O'Neill spell and in nearly every match a major result goes their way. For instance his first against Blackburn - blackburn get a goal disallowed for nothing, Bramble escapes a clear as day red card/penalty, Stoke away - Huth sent off for nothing, Arsenal home (1-2) Mertersacker collapses injured allowing CLASSY McLean to play on and score. Etc etfuckingceteraaaarr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 How the hell do we get fined £40k and them £20k for failing to control our players when they had two sent off, one for violent conduct and the other for disrespecting the referee...,after the final fuking whistle!? FA showing they are a fuking joke, at every single level and decision they make. Or FA follwoing their own rules and doubling our fine as its the second time this season......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 How the hell do we get fined £40k and them £20k for failing to control our players when they had two sent off, one for violent conduct and the other for disrespecting the referee...,after the final fuking whistle!? FA showing they are a fuking joke, at every single level and decision they make. Apparently the standard fine is £20k - ours has been doubled since it was the 2nd incident like this for us this season (Arsenal at home, Barton/Gervinho being the first). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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