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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

 

That's there own fault though for not qualifying via the league.

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Also would you take that place off one of the champions league places for that nation as you could end up with only the top 2 teams in Spain qualifying for it?

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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

 

They keep qualifying for the Uefa Cup through the league which means the prize/reward doesn't mean anything to them. It means more to a team who finish lower than them if anything.

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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

 

They keep qualifying for the Uefa Cup through the league which means the prize/reward doesn't mean anything to them. It means more to a team who finish lower than them if anything.

 

Oh, I see what the problem is. We were actually talking about the idea of getting the EL winners a CL place.

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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

 

They keep qualifying for the Uefa Cup through the league which means the prize/reward doesn't mean anything to them. It means more to a team who finish lower than them if anything.

 

Oh, I see what the problem is. We were actually talking about the idea of getting the EL winners a CL place.

 

Where would that CL place come from?  From the league the team plays in or from somewhere else?  Having 5 teams from the same country would wreck the group stage format for starters.

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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

 

They keep qualifying for the Uefa Cup through the league which means the prize/reward doesn't mean anything to them. It means more to a team who finish lower than them if anything.

 

Oh, I see what the problem is. We were actually talking about the idea of getting the EL winners a CL place.

 

Where would that CL place come from?  From the league the team plays in or from somewhere else?  Having 5 teams from the same country would wreck the group stage format for starters.

 

Then reduce the number of teams from that country, if you're that worried about it. How much of a Champion is the fourth place team, anyway?

 

Honestly, the whole system obviously needs to be completely revamped. I really like the idea of the Europa League champion getting in - I mean, it's only one team every year FFS. Ditch the ludicrous consolation prize of a Europa League place for CL dropouts, maybe tighten up the criteria for the Europa League. I mean, Boro got absolutely gubbed in the Final by Sevilla - who would have begrudged Sevilla a place in the CL on the basis of that season? Would it really be so terrible if Boro had got in?

 

I know that I'm saying this as a Spurs fan, but plenty of neutrals I spoke to really enjoyed watching us in the CL. We certainly did better than City have done, so far. Boro, or say, Fulham, would have been fun too - and they could be given a qualifying round anyway to get through. It would at least be better than the current self-perpetuating hegemony.

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The teams who have a chance to win the Uefa Cup don't tend to have a problem qualifying for it the next year so it's a waste of a prize. The FA Cup could also be a CL qualifier at a push.

 

The current holders would probably disagree vehemently with this.

 

Who and what?

 

Atleti aren't in the CL this year and they weren't the year after they won the last time either.

 

They keep qualifying for the Uefa Cup through the league which means the prize/reward doesn't mean anything to them. It means more to a team who finish lower than them if anything.

 

Oh, I see what the problem is. We were actually talking about the idea of getting the EL winners a CL place.

 

Where would that CL place come from?  From the league the team plays in or from somewhere else?  Having 5 teams from the same country would wreck the group stage format for starters.

 

There are rounds prior to the group stages that the team could enter you know

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Last 32 so far:

 

Seeded

Рубин Kazan

Металіст Kharkiv

Fenerbahce

Lyon

Дніпро Dnipropetrovsk

Olympiakos

Chelsea

CFR Cluj-Napoca

Benfica

 

Unseeded

Inter Milan

Napoli

Sparta Prague

Bayer Leverkusen

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Ajax

Динамо Kiev

BATE Borisov

Зенит Saint Petersburg

 

TBC

Lazio

Atletico Madrid

Plzen

Анжи Makhachkala

Hannover

Levante

Genk

Bordeaux

Newcastle

 

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Im not sure if its better to be seeded or not?

 

Tbh i agree looking at both seeded teams and unseeded i don't see a massive difference between the two.... Chelsea are probably the strongest team there and we can't get them anyway.

 

I'm not as bothered about it as i was before.

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Some potentially nightmare trips in that seeded pot with possible trips to Russia and Ukraine in February!!  the plus point would be those teams would be on there mid season break so may be rusty and not fully match fit.

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I don't want us to scrape through. I don't want us to fear any teams going into the next round. Be it Napoli or Dnipro, I want us to play as well as we can. If we do, we can see off pretty much any team in this competition on our day.

 

Long way to go though.

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