Wullie Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Pardew doesn't know how to construct a defensive unit so that people know where they're supposed to stand. That's been obvious for a while. He jumped on the coat tails of a well drilled back four that had mainly been playing together for years and tried to use it as evidence that he was a good coach, which he's not. He can't do it himself, there's absolutely no evidence for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Pardew doesn't know how to construct a defensive unit so that people know where they're supposed to stand. That's been obvious for a while. He jumped on the coat tails of a well drilled back four that had mainly been playing together for years and tried to use it as evidence that he was a good coach, which he's not. He can't do it himself, there's absolutely no evidence for it. Agree. The whole defence is too strung out for too long in games. I mean for starters and this is pub stuff...the full backs should tuck in when we're defending.. No what you see is Debby at right mf somewhere near the horizon and Santon playing with his hair..The times Yanga and Collo were drawn wide covering I lost count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Just in case revisionism is still flowing nicely this evening, here's a few (amongst many, many more) charming bon mots about Danny Simpson after the boxing day game at Old Trafford last season - Hopefully should never play for us again. Utter s***. Wish this c*** would get injured so I never have to see his talentless c*** face ever again. Probably one of the worst full-back performances I've ever seen. Someone break his f***ing legs. Cannot wait until this c*** leaves. Horrendous footballer, and a con artist of a defender. Useless, just f*** off Danny. Played that little Mexican c*** on for the winner - absolute basics of fullback play, you never get caught behind your centre-halfs Got in to so many good positions offensively, imagine if we'd had Debuchy there instead, what a difference he would have made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yeah but at that point we didn't know Debby was crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I always maintained that Danny Simpson was a solid defender. And when Debuchy came in he played very well imo when he had the chance. Think we should've kept him for competition at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I always maintained that Danny Simpson was a solid defender. And when Debuchy came in he played very well imo when he had the chance. Think we should've kept him for competition at least He wouldn't sign a contract tbf. I agree in principle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He fucked up on the first, although massive questions need to be asked of the midfield as to what they were doing to protect the middle. As for the next 2, I really don't see how he's to blame. For the third, HBA will have to actually do some defensive stuff from time to time, he can't get a free pass. He's not being asked to do an awful lot for that goal but he neglects the most basic of tasks. And whoever is meant to be marking Aluko deserves to be shot with shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Can't make up my mind if he was crap today or if he was just totally let down by Ben Arfa. Probably a combination of the two but I do feel he should stick to his position a bit more. Let the midfield deal with the guys in the center rather than leaving your area of the pitch when you know you have our most attacking player infront of you likely not covering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He can't even get his own positioning right.... its not the running up the wing bit that pisses me off. Its the wandering into midfield leaving a gaping hole for no real reason.... you can see he started off as a midfielder tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 If you're talking about the first goal, Mole, then the midfield really needs to be asked what the hell they were doing. It was a completely preventable situation and you could also say Colo could have called it much better as well. Defences that communicate well don't operate like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 If you're talking about the first goal, Mole, then the midfield really needs to be asked what the hell they were doing. It was a completely preventable situation and you could also say Colo could have called it much better as well. Defences that communicate well don't operate like that. Tbh i have calmed down a bit since then and i agree.... but still all he had to do was keep his position and not wander in field and its not a goal. It wasn't the only time it happened either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I don't remember other occasions but I had my head in my hands for most of the game He's obviously got a big bit of blame to take for the first but it was just a comedy of errors overall. For a team that works on defending, we were shambolic. I'm thinking that Pardew might have over-complicated things from the off, we just didn't seem at all solid, it was the complete opposite of last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Not sure what is going on with him, even when he is there in a defensive position he is usually very rash. Look at very early on when the ball was tight in the corner, he was rash going into the back of the player and was lucky to not give them a freekick. The lad was going nowhere there was no need to fly in. Most of their stuff came down his side, I think a lot of teams target him and see him as our main weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah I'd rather have my full back be able to defend first and foremost of which Debuchy isn't showing he can do particularly well at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Didn't hold his position for the 1st and 3rd goals. Wandered too far infield. Poor performance today. HBA at fault in my opinion after having now watched motd. Didn't track back for the first goal, got skinned for the 3rd after Debuchy had pressed his man and then Sissoko totally lost the goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He was fucking terrible yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I remember him looking shaky as fuck in a couple of games for France in the Euros tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Didn't hold his position for the 1st and 3rd goals. Wandered too far infield. Poor performance today. HBA at fault in my opinion after having now watched motd. Didn't track back for the first goal, got skinned for the 3rd after Debuchy had pressed his man and then Sissoko totally lost the goalscorer. Give over. Hatem may not have helped with tracking back for the first goal but the least Debuchy should have done is maintain his position, not wander way into the centre where there is already cover leaving a huge gap where he is supposed to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Pardew doesn't know how to construct a defensive unit so that people know where they're supposed to stand. That's been obvious for a while. He jumped on the coat tails of a well drilled back four that had mainly been playing together for years and tried to use it as evidence that he was a good coach, which he's not. He can't do it himself, there's absolutely no evidence for it. . Debuchy was poor yesterday, but we lost because of the setup of the whole team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I remember him looking shaky as f*** in a couple of games for France in the Euros tbf. He was shaky in one game when he was played right wing from what I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I remember him looking shaky as f*** in a couple of games for France in the Euros tbf. He was shaky in one game when he was played right wing from what I can remember. Correct, he got done for pace for a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Simpson was a main reason for hoof ball, he could handle it, pick a pass, dribble past anyone or cross it. In possession, he was and is useless. He's defensively fine though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Simpson was a main reason for hoof ball, he could handle it, pick a pass, dribble past anyone or cross it. In possession, he was and is useless. He's defensively fine though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 We've now resorted to Simpson love I see...don't get me wrong, I would have kept Simpson on as backup (and I thought he was a decent enough defender) but think some people are going a bit over the top about Debuchy. Last season was a bit of a mare for all the players and that is not a decent judge of a new signing. I'm going to give Debuchy my full support like and he's still my first choice RB, his performance against Villa just shows that he is more than a capable defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Villa missed two sitters from players he should have been picking up like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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