Ikon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 One of my favourite players of all time (outside of nufc players) Maybe not very consistent, but was lovely to watch on his day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Considering De Jong had barely played I think he's done well so far. He's all round game is very good and if he can start scoring we're gonna have a class striker on the books. Does any know much about the deal, like if there's an option to buy. Fee agreed etc? http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140129/newcastle-complete-de-jong-capture_2281670_3644177 The 23-year-old arrives at St. James' Park from Borussia Monchengladbach on loan to the end of the season, with an option to make the move permanent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 One of my favourite players of all time (outside of nufc players) Maybe not very consistent, but was lovely to watch on his day. You're wrong again.... Kluivert did play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I can see why he went for all that money (considering his goal record in Holland). Even if he could only manage Gouffran type numbers in front of goal he would be well worth the money. His all round game is genuinely great. We haven't had this type of team forward since Bellamy (although in a much different way) or dare I say Kluivert? Viduka? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Good about. Imagine De Jong turns into a prime Viduka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Kluivert is one of my favourite all-time players and while he wasn't exactly great for us, I can at least say I saw him play for us. If he had Christiano Ronaldo's professionalism or attitude we would be talking about one of the all-time greats in Kluivert because for me anyway, as a CF, he had the lot. He was a number 10 and a number 9. He was better than Ronaldo and Shearer when playing at his absolute best, but his attitude was never the best. He was an absolutely sublime footballer though. Barca should be my second club because I grew up idolising Romario, Stoichkov, Hagi, De la Pena, Guardiola, Kluivert, Rivaldo etc. I used to love watching them in the early to late 90s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Better than Ronaldo!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wasn't De La Peña a flop at Barca? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wasn't De La Peña a flop at Barca? Flawed Genius is how i'd describe him, had some ridiculous moments but also had games where he did nothing. Guti was similar, but like De La Pena i loved watching them both in full flight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Better than Ronaldo!? No, obviously not, but at his absolute best he was a better all-rounder for me because he was not only a number 9 but also a number 10. He could never put in the consistency though and that was partly down to his general attitude. Like I said, if he applied himself the way Christiano Ronaldo does, we'd be talking about him in the same vein as he and indeed Ronaldo et al, rather than a great player at some point which is what he'll be remembered as. The day we signed him though, and that performance in the friendly at home to Barca... I dreamed of him playing for us and he did. Even though he was well past it when he joined us, he stood out massively as an extremely talented player, one we've rarely seen in our colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wasn't De La Peña a flop at Barca? Injured a lot from what I remember but he was a lovely player, and a tough guy too. Barca over the years man. I know Real have had Zidane and Raul, Ronaldo and Christiano Ronaldo and Figo of course, but Barca have had some ridiculous talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wasn't De La Peña a flop at Barca? Flawed Genius is how i'd describe him, had some ridiculous moments but also had games where he did nothing. Guti was similar, but like De La Pena i loved watching them both in full flight. Guti stayed at Madrid for years, right? De La Peña was better when he moved on iirc. Bit like Riquelme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wasn't De La Peña a flop at Barca? Flawed Genius is how i'd describe him, had some ridiculous moments but also had games where he did nothing. Guti was similar, but like De La Pena i loved watching them both in full flight. Guti stayed at Madrid for years, right? De La Peña was better when he moved on iirc. Bit like Riquelme. He did but mainly because he was a youth product.... he was always a very inconsistent player capable of ridiculous moments of magic like De La Pena. Obviously there's no comparison with their career paths but in terms of how they played i found them to be similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wasn't De La Peña a flop at Barca? Flawed Genius is how i'd describe him, had some ridiculous moments but also had games where he did nothing. Guti was similar, but like De La Pena i loved watching them both in full flight. Guti stayed at Madrid for years, right? De La Peña was better when he moved on iirc. Bit like Riquelme. He did but mainly because he was a youth product.... he was always a very inconsistent player capable of ridiculous moments of magic like De La Pena. Obviously there's no comparison with their career paths but in terms of how they played i found them to be similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Better than Ronaldo!? No, obviously not, but at his absolute best he was a better all-rounder for me because he was not only a number 9 but also a number 10. He could never put in the consistency though and that was partly down to his general attitude. Like I said, if he applied himself the way Christiano Ronaldo does, we'd be talking about him in the same vein as he and indeed Ronaldo et al, rather than a great player at some point which is what he'll be remembered as. The day we signed him though, and that performance in the friendly at home to Barca... I dreamed of him playing for us and he did. Even though he was well past it when he joined us, he stood out massively as an extremely talented player, one we've rarely seen in our colours. Kluivert was a sublime striker, and he showed flashes of it even for us when he was a shell of the player he used to be. The goal he scored against Palace when he scored from a Bellamy cross with an inside heel flick for example. Pure magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Bowlingcrofty - cheers dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Aye, we've had worse signings than Kluivert, for sure. I'll remember him fondly if only for those two cup goals against Chelsea/Spurs. The first, in-particular, was a cracking header. The argument is that we should have made Shearer third choice, but both he and Kluivert had injury (or 'injury', in Paddy's case) issues that year. And, obviously, re Bellamy, Souness was batshit insane. Wish we'd hung onto Robson for just another year and made a smoother transition to a better manager. Instead of chaos then Souness. I bet the course of our history would be very different had we let Sir Bobby see out another year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I don't think Sir Bobby wanted Kluivert to be honest. I think he along with Butt and Carr was more of a FS signing. I know Bobby wanted the Portuguese and Greek full-backs, but I can't quite remember who he wanted up front. It wasn't Kluivert though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I don't think Sir Bobby wanted Kluivert to be honest. I think he along with Butt and Carr was more of a FS signing. I know Bobby wanted the Portuguese and Greek full-backs, but I can't quite remember who he wanted up front. It wasn't Kluivert though. Miguel/Carr. Speed/Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Guti . Provided my favourite ever assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I don't think Sir Bobby wanted Kluivert to be honest. I think he along with Butt and Carr was more of a FS signing. I know Bobby wanted the Portuguese and Greek full-backs, but I can't quite remember who he wanted up front. It wasn't Kluivert though. Nah, Carr was someone he'd wanted for a while. I've no idea about Butt but you're right about Kluivert. He wanted rid of Shearer and to replace him with Emile Mpenza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 He wanted Carrick instead of Butt but Shepherd thought that because he was a Geordie, Carrick would end up forcing a move here so we'd get him cheaper in a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I don't think Sir Bobby wanted Kluivert to be honest. I think he along with Butt and Carr was more of a FS signing. I know Bobby wanted the Portuguese and Greek full-backs, but I can't quite remember who he wanted up front. It wasn't Kluivert though. From what I remember SBR was getting ready to drop Shearer for Kluivert and that's what got him sacked. Then Souness got rid of both Kluivert and Bellamy because they posed a threat to Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Kluivert would have come good under Sir Bob IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 nah, he was spent. Or at least had lost interest in being a professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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