Jack Flash Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The man just reeks He stinks. http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/uploads/images/news/10551/thumbs/660x0.jpg He's just a tracksuit manager in a suit. I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for the people who are still desperately trying to defend him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Look at all the manager trouble we've had since Ashley has been here. He finally found a guy that will do what he wants w/o complaining and who achieved a respectable 5th place finish. Ashley thinks he's found his man. Thats why he's got an 8 year deal and no pressure at all. He's going to be here for awhile. Sadly. That 8 year deal is about as worthy as a Greggs paper wrapper tbh. Hope you are right. What were the comments Ashley made when Houghton was canned? Something along the lines of 'he wasn't achieving what we expect as a club', certainly that fits Pardew now. Ashley wasn't afraid to pull the trigger then, what's holding him this time? (Our success in europe probably) Houghton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I was thinking about this tonight. Pardew is someone who does better with a shit squad, like at the start of his West Ham and at us. Soon as he spends $$$ on players and builds a better squad he becomes unstuck with his rigid and shite tactics imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I was thinking about this tonight. Pardew is someone who does better with a shit squad, like at the start of his West Ham and at us. Soon as he spends $$$ on players and builds a better squad he becomes unstuck with his rigid and shite tactics imo. If that was the case we wouldn't have needed to spend £30m+ to bail him out this season, because all he's had to lean on has been the poor squad players and youngsters. PS: Llambias maths don't exactly sound kind in this context do they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Look at all the manager trouble we've had since Ashley has been here. He finally found a guy that will do what he wants w/o complaining and who achieved a respectable 5th place finish. Ashley thinks he's found his man. Thats why he's got an 8 year deal and no pressure at all. He's going to be here for awhile. Sadly. That 8 year deal is about as worthy as a Greggs paper wrapper tbh. Hope you are right. What were the comments Ashley made when Houghton was canned? Something along the lines of 'he wasn't achieving what we expect as a club', certainly that fits Pardew now. Ashley wasn't afraid to pull the trigger then, what's holding him this time? (Our success in europe probably) Houghton. I shouldn't post when i'm frustrated about something, everything goes to shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I was thinking about this tonight. Pardew is someone who does better with a shit squad, like at the start of his West Ham and at us. Soon as he spends $$$ on players and builds a better squad he becomes unstuck with his rigid and shite tactics imo. If that was the case we wouldn't have needed to spend £30m+ to bail him out. PS: Llambias maths don't exactly sound helpful in this context do they. No they don't. Then is it of things going stale at his clubs with regards to his tactics etc? Something isn't right and it has to rectified this season not next season imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 question, has pardew got a single result this season from a fixture that you'd not expect us to win? i mean vs. the top 6 teams, or in a game where were were decimated by injuries? i do not include results where we've had to pull something back from when he's got it totally wrong in the first place not that there's many of chelsea (h) springs to mind keep saying it but this is the mark of a good manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 No he hasn't. Very similar to his first half season when he only won games against teams below us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 question, has pardew got a single result this season from a fixture that you'd not expect us to win? i mean vs. the top 6 teams, or in a game where were were decimated by injuries? i do not include results where we've had to pull something back from when he's got it totally wrong in the first place not that there's many of chelsea (h) springs to mind keep saying it but this is the mark of a good manager He's got results which I didn't expect, just not in the way you mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 No he hasn't. Very similar to his first half season when he only won games against teams below us. he's fucking woeful like hope we're about to laugh about this in may for a couple of months mind 'cause if we stay up he'll be putting the teams out in august again make no mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My view on Pardew hasn't changed since early in the season - he is running true to form at previous clubs, having a year or so of reasonable success then a steady drop-off in the performance of his team. Depite having millions of pounds-worth of new talent given to him - a luxury clubs like Villa, Wigan and Southampton have NOT had in the January window, the side has fallen from its little lift from these signings and is now once again looking poor. Nobody can deny there have been injuries, the one to HBA being a critical blow, but the team's performances have once again become pedestrian, defensive and sterile in attack, where Cisse looks like a poor Championship player....much of this has to be down to Pardew and his tactics. As people have said, O'Neill being fired from the Mackems IS another pressure - Pardew now looks worse than any other manager whose team are in trouble ; people have mocked Lambert at Villa but if they beat Liverpool today, he will have done a brilliant job given the absence of any financial back-up and the Saints new manager has done really well since he took over - or at least, he has made sure that the team has.... I am not advocating sacking Pardew at this time - its too close to the end now unless you could get someone really good which is out of the window - but he HAS to go in summer, whether we stay up or go down. He will never take the club forward and we will continue to have massive defeats like the latest one and worst of all, they will be whilst playing dire, sterile football. If Pardew stays, we will lose many of our better players, including Cabaye, in summer - no doubt in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 question, has pardew got a single result this season from a fixture that you'd not expect us to win? i mean vs. the top 6 teams, or in a game where were were decimated by injuries? i do not include results where we've had to pull something back from when he's got it totally wrong in the first place not that there's many of chelsea (h) springs to mind keep saying it but this is the mark of a good manager I didn't expect us to beat QPR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I just dont see what his tactics are meant to be. If its defensive then it doesnt look it because we are all over the place conceading goals left right and centre from mistakes. He really needs to stop worrying about other teams and just set us up to attack. Cisse in on his own with absolutely nobody backing him up, we need to be further up the pitch applying pressure to teams. It really is pathetic the way we play, we look like we dont train together and it needs to be changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Jobs for the boys no mark. Such a poor coach. Every fucking game man... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I've been patient with him, don't know why, think I was just after the stablity that we've lacked for so long, but this is taking the piss. Performances are awful and we're just increasing the pressure and importance of our home games. It's going to be a nervy fucking end to the season like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Fuck, really was hoping I was going to see Pardew getting the sack today. Easily a worse manager than Martin, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My view on Pardew hasn't changed since early in the season - he is running true to form at previous clubs, having a year or so of reasonable success then a steady drop-off in the performance of his team. Depite having millions of pounds-worth of new talent given to him - a luxury clubs like Villa, Wigan and Southampton have NOT had in the January window, the side has fallen from its little lift from these signings and is now once again looking poor. Nobody can deny there have been injuries, the one to HBA being a critical blow, but the team's performances have once again become pedestrian, defensive and sterile in attack, where Cisse looks like a poor Championship player....much of this has to be down to Pardew and his tactics. As people have said, O'Neill being fired from the Mackems IS another pressure - Pardew now looks worse than any other manager whose team are in trouble ; people have mocked Lambert at Villa but if they beat Liverpool today, he will have done a brilliant job given the absence of any financial back-up and the Saints new manager has done really well since he took over - or at least, he has made sure that the team has.... I am not advocating sacking Pardew at this time - its too close to the end now unless you could get someone really good which is out of the window - but he HAS to go in summer, whether we stay up or go down. He will never take the club forward and we will continue to have massive defeats like the latest one and worst of all, they will be whilst playing dire, sterile football. If Pardew stays, we will lose many of our better players, including Cabaye, in summer - no doubt in my mind. Not sure about how quickly we'll lose Cabaye, but good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Just wondering who people would want to replace Pardew? Someone who would realistically come. Would we be looking at an appointment like Martinez/Poyet/Di Canio, or try to get someone like Rudi Garcia? I'd get rid in the summer FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Just wondering who people would want to replace Pardew? Someone who would realistically come. Would we be looking at an appointment like Martinez/Poyet/Di Canio, or try to get someone like Rudi Garcia? I'd get rid in the summer FWIW. I personally think Ashley and Llambias will listen to Carr. I read the comments from Llambias early, talks of building on a global brand, you cant do that outside the premier league or from the bottom end. I was thinking maybe we should give him next season but im fed up now, every football match is just an awful struggle. Keep him for now and have someone lined up as soon as the season ends. Who that could be, i dunno but i trust Carr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 we shouldn't keep him now tbh, carver has enough experience to get us to the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Looking at S'hampton with 4/5 streaming into the box or 6 breaking forward in posession is the best contrast to our pedestrian 1 or 2 trying something in or around the box. Pitiful. A team more often than not playing within itself and playing with fear and trepidation of almost any side we come up against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 we shouldn't keep him now tbh, carver has enough experience to get us to the end of the season Carvs for me like Nah I would want someone in with a bit "more" Id wait until summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 we shouldn't keep him now tbh, carver has enough experience to get us to the end of the season Carvs for me like Nah I would want someone in with a bit "more" Id wait until summer. i think as an absolute minimum carver would let them go out and fucking play, which has got to be a better option than the nonsense pardew is serving up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Just stick a pin in one of these. France R. Garde Olympique Lyon 7001 France F. Gillot Bordeaux 6646 France P. Montanier Real Sociedad 6017 France R. Garcia Lille 5631 71 France R. Girard Montpellier 5219 France C. Galtier Saint-Étienne 4795 curr99 92 France F. Antonetti Stade Rennes 4559 0 279 curr106 110 France E. Baup Olympique Marseille 4328 curr145 142 France C. Gourcuff Lorient 3486 154 France C. Puel Nice 3374 curr189 176 France D. Sanchez Valenciennes 2871 184 France A. Casanova Toulouse 2813 0 186 curr201 211 France E. Hély Sochaux, (Sochaux II) 2729 France F. Hantz Bastia 2410 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The league table is fcking minging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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