Guest Dontooner Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I do agree its one of Pardew's better games where we had counter attacks that actually lead to real chances. Starting Marvx was a key member to this happening also the open defense Benfica had. This approach works well in some games like Man u last year but come on we invited pressure all day long. Teams are bound to try to make a come back. story of the season over and over again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Benfica seem to be the exact opposite of our team in their approach and formation. They pile their players into the opposition half then look to play quick short passes with plenty of players attacking the box. We pile our players into our own half and look to hit the ball long towards the isolated centre forward. They look vulnerable at the back but we never really tested that high defensive line enough. That sums it up pretty well. Chalk and cheese in terms of approach. I'm not sure they'll win over two legs against Chelsea or Spurs with that approach, because those teams will hit back far harder than us. There are those who will say we were unlucky, but I thought they gave us a right pounding over 90 mins. Very, very harsh conclusion that. I'm not arguing we're as stylish as Benfica but our approach tonight wasn't that bad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Like I said earlier in the thread does the manager have to shoulder all the blame or should some of the players acknowledge their part? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'm very anti-Pardew but there's not much he could have done differently tonight. We started really well, got the lead and just about hung on. Those 2 Cisse efforts that bounced back off the post have changed the entire complexion of the tie. Crucial moments that went against us can't be blamed on Pardew. We've been undone by two daft individual mistakes. Unfortunately both mistakes were punished fully against a very good team. 3-1 leaves a hell of an effort needed but the tie's not dead yet. We've been unfortunate tonight and Benfica are a hell of a team. Pissed off but at the way the breaks have fallen rather than at Pardew. nailed, I can't blame him for tonight. Two individual errors and two that hit the post, we're 0-4 on those crucial moments going against us. aye, but some of the Haters in here think he decided those things, when he wasnt offering security advice to North Korea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Benfica seem to be the exact opposite of our team in their approach and formation. They pile their players into the opposition half then look to play quick short passes with plenty of players attacking the box. We pile our players into our own half and look to hit the ball long towards the isolated centre forward. They look vulnerable at the back but we never really tested that high defensive line enough. That sums it up pretty well. Chalk and cheese in terms of approach. I'm not sure they'll win over two legs against Chelsea or Spurs with that approach, because those teams will hit back far harder than us. There are those who will say we were unlucky, but I thought they gave us a right pounding over 90 mins. We were not unlucky , mistakes are not called being unlucky, they are f*** ups that are avoidable. And agree they gave us a pounding, 20-7 shots, 12-0 corners. Maybe the stats are wrong , I'm sure we had one corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Pards did alright tonight. You can't legislate for the two clown moments. Agreed, I just wish we'd spend a bit more time working with our defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Like I said earlier in the thread does the manager have to shoulder all the blame or should some of the players acknowledge their part? Santon and Taylor want flogging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 if santon and taylor hadnt of had mares, and cisses shots had went in off the post- would anyone be criticising Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 if santon and taylor hadnt of had mares, and cisses shots had went in off the post- would anyone be criticising Pardew? Probably not but that didn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yep absolutely kamikaze stuff tonight from Santon and Taylor. Other than that it was a good away performance at a really tough place to go. God only knows what was going through their heads to make those cock ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Let down by 2 players tonight. We weren't going to keep up sustained pressure against Benfica, that rarely happens in football matches anyway. At least there's some hope left in the tie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yeah i blame our defenders too, the midfield and the attacking players were great this season . Making multiple chances out of nothing and not piling pressure on our back four. Good tactics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's how we react to these things though. Us having bad luck doesn't get him off the hook imo. I did actually think he done well on the whole mind, until he went and took off our best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The tactics appear to be working perfectly well tonight. Players let him down. Perhaps I have an agenda. God knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 if santon and taylor hadnt of had mares, and cisses shots had went in off the post- would anyone be criticising Pardew? Aye, the weather is a bit cold tonight. ffs It's April Pardew what you playing at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Once again he's blaming our "lack of ambition"..... isn't it the manager's job to ensure the mentality of the team is the way he wants it? I agree that he couldn't have done much more to prevent the 2 goals being conceded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's how we react to these things though. Us having bad luck doesn't get him off the hook imo. I did actually think he done well on the whole mind, then he went and took of our best player. Option was either to stick or twist. He stuck, which I can forgive in this scenario because they looked dangerous every time they went forward, but I agree that I think we should have kept Mareaux on and had another go at it. 3-2 would've been a very decent result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think there's much analysis to be done after tonight TBH, we committed footballing suicide through individual errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 peopel saying he stuck on 3-1 forget we attacked and were clean through for a linesman to rob us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Like I said earlier in the thread does the manager have to shoulder all the blame or should some of the players acknowledge their part? Santon and Taylor want flogging. Taylor yes, Santon no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think there's much analysis to be done after tonight TBH, we committed footballing suicide through individual errors. We can analyse his changes after we went down 3-1 though. Shola on to negative effect once again. Uninspiring. Thought we did all right until we went behind though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Pards did alright tonight. You can't legislate for the two clown moments. Agreed, I just wish we'd spend a bit more time working with our defenders. The irony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Like I said earlier in the thread does the manager have to shoulder all the blame or should some of the players acknowledge their part? Santon and Taylor want flogging. Taylor yes, Santon no. Why do you say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Did fairly well tonight I thought, bigger picture doesn't change obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 It was suicide by the players on the pitch and not Pardew at the end of the day.. there was a good chance it was going to finish 1-1 or at worst 2-1 which in the circumstances would have been a good result. Think Pardew's set up was on the money tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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