Guest Dontooner Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The Boat has already started rocking, when some of our better players leave aka Ben arfa ,Cabaye,Ba.etc Reality will start to set in for most of the fans. Simple really, good players want to play with good managers. You can't really save a sinking boat when there is momentum with key players asking to leave. Either get a better manager where the players feel excited to play for or let the players go as we have a long term plan just to remain in the league. Quite obvious what the Owners think, so be ready to loose our top performing players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ben Arfa, Colo and Ba have been our only consistent good performances so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ben Arfa, Colo and Ba have been our only consistent good performances so far this season. Santon as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Still think all of this could've been avoided with more investment in the summer (and I'm not talking silly money). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 We would not let Swansea play ffs. And they still won! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The Boat has already started rocking, when some of our better players leave aka Ben arfa ,Cabaye,Ba.etc Reality will start to set in for most of the fans. Simple really, good players want to play with good managers. You can't really save a sinking boat when there is momentum with key players asking to leave. Either get a better manager where the players feel excited to play for or let the players go as we have a long term plan just to remain in the league. Quite obvious what the Owners think, so be ready to loose our top performing players. Ba excluded, our top players are all on long contracts and the club won't sell unless they get offered top whack, and then they'll hold out for more. If we end up forcing players to stay at SJP real trouble beckons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ben Arfa, Colo and Ba have been our only consistent good performances so far this season. Santon as well. I'll raise you Shola, tbf he's hardly put a foot wrong in the bits and pieces he's played in but we need 9/10 players performing to their best not 4 or 5 and therin lies Pardew's problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Still think all of this could've been avoided with more investment in the summer (and I'm not talking silly money). i tend to disagree, it might have help us become a more balance team, but the drying up of goals were certainly round the corner.. we have no style of routines to open teams up. Less variations of attacking models = less goals . There is absolutely no doubt this barren spell was coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/19/pardew-papiss-cisse-withdrawal-hit-players-hard-72703-32259569/ “You can bet your life our players would have been thinking if we had had Papiss we might have won. We can never answer that question.” “You take Suarez out of Liverpool or Torres out of Chelsea it would be tough to take.” “A lot of our experienced players were not available and we had a real good go at it. We would not let Swansea play.” Bit of the same as mentioned before, but Imagine someone on here saying those things? They'd get laughed out of town for coming across as being someone without basic knowledge of Cisse's form, our form, Torres's form and the actual result. This isn't someone on here, though. This is the person leading us ffs. There's keeping up appearances and giving players confidence through the press, but that's just embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Even if Cisse is out of form he's still dangerous - only the Torres bit is ridiculous really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 He's not dangerous like. Not in this system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ben Arfa, Colo and Ba have been our only consistent good performances so far this season. Santon as well. Agreed. He's looked very impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Even if Cisse is out of form he's still dangerous - only the Torres bit is ridiculous really. You think the comparison with Suarez is alright? In this form? It's utter bollocks, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 3 must-win games coming up now. He had 5, but this crisis could still be sorted out with atleast 7p from thos 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ben Arfa, Colo and Ba have been our only consistent good performances so far this season. Santon as well. Agreed. He's looked very impressive. Flatters to deceive, there's rarely any end product. Looks better than he is due to having Simpson on the other side. OK player but like a few of our purples I think we have a slightly skewed view of how good they are. Tin hat time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Even if Cisse is out of form he's still dangerous - only the Torres bit is ridiculous really. You think the comparison with Suarez is alright? In this form? It's utter bollocks, man. It is and talking blx doesn't instil confidence in the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 man for man we had the better side, regardless of who was playing. and the fact that we were at home leaves ZERO excuse. I would say however, the players are as much to blame as pardew. Our defence has been in very poor form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Even if Cisse is out of form he's still dangerous - only the Torres bit is ridiculous really. You think the comparison with Suarez is alright? In this form? It's utter bollocks, man. It is and talking blx doesn't instil confidence in the players. Their form isn't comparable obviously, but his point was that they are both the main strikers for their teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Still think all of this could've been avoided with more investment in the summer (and I'm not talking silly money). 100% agree. But a commited interested owner is the missing key to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The Boat has already started rocking, when some of our better players leave aka Ben arfa ,Cabaye,Ba.etc Reality will start to set in for most of the fans. Simple really, good players want to play with good managers. You can't really save a sinking boat when there is momentum with key players asking to leave. Either get a better manager where the players feel excited to play for or let the players go as we have a long term plan just to remain in the league. Quite obvious what the Owners think, so be ready to loose our top performing players. This is the thing though, the players seem to really like Pardew, with a lot of our better players having the chance to move on in the summer. We all know how that ball rolls, see Carroll and Ben Arfa if players really want it their own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Has this cunt not been sacked yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/19/no-system-failure-as-pardew-urges-nufc-to-dig-deep-72703-32259566/ However, Pardew told the Chronicle: “We played 4-3-3. We were 4-3-3, Sammy was on the left-hand side and joining with Demba and I thought he did a good job. “Shola came on at half-time and upped us again. “We had our best spell when the two were together.” “We need more senior players available. “That was a good Swansea side with good experience in it. “They had a bit more about experience than us at certain times in the game. “The decision over Papiss was a blow to us, you cannot take that away.” Pardew also insisted he will keep the defeat in context. He said: “I cannot say I am massively disappointed – I was after West Ham. “I had a young team out on Saturday, but up until they scored, we bossed the game and looked like winning.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 “I had a young team out on Saturday, but up until they scored, we bossed the game and looked like winning.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I cannot say I am massively disappointed Less than three weeks after saying we can finish 4th. For his sanity's sake I hope he's just blatantly lying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 It wasn't really 433 was it? Sammy was up top and fergie/hba wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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