Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yep. HTT too, and he got some stick for it but was right all along. To be fair, the results were good and so were the performances at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs. I'm not sure anybody has claimed to know how badly things would go this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Beren was one of a number of posters who questioned Pardew's football ethos, even when things were going well. So was I but the retort was "blame pards", people couldn't see past results. He has clear strengths as a defensive coach, you cant ignore us breaking records last season with the standard of players he was using. Thats not coincidence. His ability as an attacking coach has been in doubt though yeah & that now looks a proven issue especially if individual players get injured or lose the form to cover that up. The lack of group cohesion then stands out massively ofc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yep. HTT too, and he got some stick for it but was right all along. To be fair, the results were good and so were the performances at times. So why were there so many doubters about his style of football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs. I'm not sure anybody has claimed to know how badly things would go this season. There's a hint of "I knew he was terrible! I told you, but did you listen?! NOOO!". It's all screams arrogance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 His league form this season is almost mirroring Kinnear's numbers btw. Pardew tomorrow with his prozone machine begging for his job... Willy Wonka Computer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs. I'm not sure anybody has claimed to know how badly things would go this season. There's a hint of "I knew he was terrible! I told you, but did you listen?! NOOO!". It's all screams arrogance. Absolutely. Fucking tedious to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs. I don't see anyone blaming fans who were happy, just pointing out that there were fans who had legitimate concerns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Beren was one of a number of posters who questioned Pardew's football ethos, even when things were going well. So was I but the retort was "blame pards", people couldn't see past results. He has clear strengths as a defensive coach, you cant ignore us breaking records last season with the standard of players he was using. Thats not coincidence. His ability as an attacking coach has been in doubt though yeah & that now looks a proven issue especially if individual players get injured or lose the form to cover that up. The lack of group cohesion then stands out massively ofc. The fact alone that Mike Williamson is a consistent starter calls into question his judgment as a defensive-minded coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I think it is a response to the incredulous reactions of some when people were questioning him even when we were getting decent results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He has clear strengths as a defensive coach, you cant ignore us breaking records last season with the standard of players he was using. Thats not coincidence. His ability as an attacking coach has been in doubt though yeah & that now looks a proven issue especially if individual players get injured or lose the form to cover that up. The lack of group cohesion then stands out massively ofc. Even our defence is poor this season and that's his area so don't use defence to back him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Beren was one of a number of posters who questioned Pardew's football ethos, even when things were going well. So was I but the retort was "blame pards", people couldn't see past results. Yep. HTT too, and he got some stick for it but was right all along. He'll be along shortly for a good old gloat, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Other than the period around the first WBA game nobody was complaining at all. People picked up on the fact we weren't exactly playing gorgeous attacking football and that not starting Ben Arfa was fucking idiotic, but all in all people were happy. Looking back now it seems obvious though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Stopping every free kick going to Williamson would be a positive step, honestly that's just terrible play, it never amounts to anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He has clear strengths as a defensive coach, you cant ignore us breaking records last season with the standard of players he was using. Thats not coincidence. His ability as an attacking coach has been in doubt though yeah & that now looks a proven issue especially if individual players get injured or lose the form to cover that up. The lack of group cohesion then stands out massively ofc. Even our defence is poor this season and that's his area so don't use defence to back him up. Krul, Colo & Saylor have all been out injured & as has been discussed our preperation time for games is clearly very different this season. You know all of this information. Dont know why you bother, just try to show some balance atleast man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 There's a hint of "I knew he was terrible! I told you, but did you listen?! NOOO!". It's all screams arrogance. Blame Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Tbf, I think most of us questioned Pardew's style when things were going well, but what else were we supposed to say when we're fighting for a Champions League spot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He has to come out after this game and take the blame for recent results. Time to grow some balls and take charge of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Beren was one of a number of posters who questioned Pardew's football ethos, even when things were going well. So was I but the retort was "blame pards", people couldn't see past results. He has clear strengths as a defensive coach, you cant ignore us breaking records last season with the standard of players he was using. Thats not coincidence. His ability as an attacking coach has been in doubt though yeah & that now looks a proven issue especially if individual players get injured or lose the form to cover that up. The lack of group cohesion then stands out massively ofc. Thats exactly the problem you cant keep winning games being defensive. "hoof and cross Pardew" the variation of goals we score is applauding. At some point they will dry up , these performances were always coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Has he done a post match interview? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icwales2/sep2009/7/7/george-burley-614153676.jpg Ipswich 2000-01 5 Ipswich Town 38 20 6 12 57 42 +15 66 Ipswich 2001-02 18 Ipswich Town ® 38 9 9 20 41 64 −23 36 http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50361000/jpg/_50361002_pardew.jpg Newcastle 2011-2012 5 Newcastle United 38 19 8 11 56 51 +5 65 Newcastle 2012-13.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Tbf, I think most of us questioned Pardew's style when things were going well, but what else were we supposed to say when we're fighting for a Champions League spot? If you look back several if not most posters were uneasy with it, Hoofball was word used time and time again. We kept winning though and it is hard to have a go at Pardew. But looking back you can see the how many people on here and other places were worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, who knew when we were finishing 5th that it'd end up like this? The last thing you can do is blame people who were happy that we were winning ffs. Nobody could have spotted it but I'm sure there were signs. - Beginning the season with great optimism, when normally that fails so bad. Last season began with pessimism then turned out brilliantly. - Knowing that Europe would knacker us a bit. - Knowing Newcastle's ability to create contrasting scenes immediately after each other like black and white stripes. - Ashley having the unpredictability of Sammy Ameobi. - Pards never really registered a romp as a manager. In a club like NUFC, I doubt one ever fully writes himself into club folklore without dealing out any hammering. Now it's showing with our lack of bite in attack. - The no comeback stat still existed last season. Our team spirit really is overhyped. Things just went too well last season. It's nothing more than a mad dream that actually came true, really. When does NUFC have injury-free seasons with defensive solidity, and consistency? When does a clueless t*** become a manager of the year? When did we ever have great transfer windows in both flogging and buying? It just so un-NUFC in every way, so as much as I didn't expect this s*** I'm hardly surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 ToonBano.com @ToonBano AP, "We missed Cabaye & Hatem today. And Coloccini. And Shearer. And Milburn. And Superman. And The Incredible Hulk. And Obertan." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Absolutely. f***ing tedious to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts