Decky Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 DDLLDLLWLL 17 15.12.2012 Manchester City home 18 22.12.2012 Queens Park Rangers home 19 26.12.2012 Manchester United away 20 29.12.2012 Arsenal away 21 02.01.2013 Everton home *gulp* We could very easily be destroyed in 3 of those, which will do our already shite goal difference no favours. Anyone who thinks we aren't in a relegation battle right now is kidding themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thought we played ok today? Assuming the Ben Arfa sub had something to do with his fitness. If not, that was an epic mistake. Could understand HBA from a fitness pov but to bring on Shola? And why bring off Anita? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think it all could've been different had Ashley given him money to spend in the summer, however that's long in the past and has become largely irrelevant. Bloke's lost the plot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 What i'd give to trade with the manager in the opposite dugout... despise this gutless prick. Tbf, I think most of us say this every week. Might be easier to do a poll of who we wouldn't swap him for. My guess, Martin O'Neill, and...yep, just Martin O'Neill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 People can shout about it all they fancy but we are stuck with him Exactly, its alost pointless even discussing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He's got to go but he'll be here for a while yet, he's really clueless and we'll do well now to finish mid table. We'll do well to be 17th in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hope he atleast saw how a proper fluid 4-4-2 works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 We didn't hoof it all game for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Lose to City 5-0, then give QPR their first win. Perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Pardew in the league - P16 W4 D5 L7 Kinnear in the league - P18 W4 D7 L7 Updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 People can shout about it all they fancy but we are stuck with him Agree. He might make the decision himself if home games become 90 minutes of abuse and booing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Officially turned. I want him gone. Respect the man for what he did last season but he's failed his players and us. Even if the Board hung him out to try from a transfer perspective, and he's had some terrible luck with form, injuries etc. but he's the manager, and the table does not lie. He's failed to get the best out these players and he's failing us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 "I though we was good tonight, not many teams come to Fulham and get anything but I thought we matched them. You know, when you're struggling things tend to go against you and we saw some of that. Their first goal the ball hits Mike and it could go anywhere and, typical enough of our luck recently, it's ended up in the back of the net. After that we done well, second half we was excellent and fully deserved our goal I thought. I know our goal came from a deflection as well, but you make your own luck. We suffered a big blow losing Hatem after 70 minutes, I felt if he's stayed on we'd have gotten something. There's been a lot of speculation around the club about the draw for the next round of the Europa League and I think you could see that took it's toll on us tonight. But we had some tremendous performers out there tonight and if we keep playing like that the results will come soon enough." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 We'll do well to be 17th in January. If we are as high as that it will be because others are worse then us, not because we're any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 TL;DR Bullshit sprouting out of his mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He just doesn't seem to be learning what works and what doesn't. He needs to grow a set and just go for teams. I honestly fear for us with the games we have over Christmas we could be in that bottom 3 come January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 "I though we was good tonight, not many teams come to Fulham and get anything but I thought we matched them. You know, when you're struggling things tend to go against you and we saw some of that. Their first goal the ball hits Mike and it could go anywhere and, typical enough of our luck recently, it's ended up in the back of the net. After that we done well, second half we was excellent and fully deserved our goal I thought. I know our goal came from a deflection as well, but you make your own luck. We suffered a big blow losing Hatem after 70 minutes, I felt if he's stayed on we'd have gotten something. There's been a lot of speculation around the club about the draw for the next round of the Europa League and I think you could see that took it's toll on us tonight. But we had some tremendous performers out there tonight and if we keep playing like that the results will come soon enough." People making up quotes makes me cringe to fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Pardew in the league - P16 W4 D5 L7 Kinnear in the league - P18 W4 D7 L7 Updated. I'd take 2 draws in the next 2 games Kinnear didn't have europe to jugular Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 FWIW Pardew taking off Ben Arfa for Shola is the moment he lost me altogether. That ranks as the most telling and downright worst substition I've seen. I don't want to watch what he clearly wants to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Back when Souness was in charge it was alleged that he didn't really believe in tactics other than selecting 11 "professionals" who would already know what to do. Whilst Pardew doesn't appear to be as unaware as Souness there do seem to be some similarities in how the team is set up to attack. What's the actual attacking philosophy? Carefully placed diagonal balls through the middle for Ba or Cisse to run on to? No. Classic wing play with wide players getting to the by-line before placing a carefully measured cross into the path of an oncoming forward? No. Our entire attacking strategy seems to consist of hitting the ball upfield in the hope that Ba or Cisse can make something out of nothing, or hope for a mistake from the opposition that will gift a chance to our front men. Failing that, give it to Ben Arfa and hope that he can conjure up something out of nothing. If that fails, bring on a couple of players who weren't considered good enough to start but otherwise just keep doing exactly the same shit that hasn't been working previously. What was the last goal we scored that wasn't due to individual brilliance or an opposition mistake? When was the last time a wide player realised that aerial balls into the box were being cleared with ease and switched to fire in a low ball across the face of goal? From the number of balls we win in the air, attacking and defending, it'd be hard to argue that we're anything other than crap in the air and yet 90% of our attacking play seems to consist of aerial balls aimed at the head of someone who is usually marked by someone taller and better in the air. When we do keep the ball on the ground there's a chronic lack of movement in the team. Forwards don't drop back to draw defenders out of position, midfielders don't move up to fill gaps when they do appear, passes are too often made behind players moving into space. Instead of passing into the space the player is going to be in, passes go to where the player was causing the attack to slow to a crawl and allowing defenders to get back into position. We give the ball to Jonas or Ben Arfa and half the time the rest of the team seem to stop, channelling the little kid from The Incredibles just watching and waiting for the hero to do something amazing. Unsurprisingly, the ball is usually lost leaving most of the team completely out of position allowing the opposition to counter-attack with ease. Whilst the players certainly aren't blameless in all of this, 9 out of the 11 who started tonight have full international caps. They haven't suddenly turned to shit, they just don't seem to have any idea how to play together as a team. There are too many teams in the Premiership who are doing a hell of a lot better than us this season by simply doing the basic stuff like passing and moving. That needs a lot of work on the training ground but I'm really not confident that our coaching team is even capable, especially since that's where our current "tactics" seem to have come from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Gutted. If we had an owner who actually cared about football he'd be gone now. Unfortunately we don't, Ashley looks for lackeys who work for him. Also, if we had a manager with an ounce of integrity, he might walk soon. Again, that's not Pardew, he also doesn't give a shit about the club or the fans. He was unemployable (for a normal chairman/owner). So chances are, we're stuck watching this shit until it's too late. Championship here we come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 People making up quotes makes me cringe to f***. They usually turn out to be true that's what makes me cringe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Everything about him makes me angry. The smug, cockney cuntish voice. The smug, cockney cuntish look. Can't even watch interviews with him anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 What would I not give to have Hughton back right now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I apparently drove past his house in Surrey on Friday night, should have shit on his doorstep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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