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How many times did Pards do his little 'rainbow' signal during the last few games ie go long...I saw him do it at least three times during the Arsenal game.

I too wish we played more football on the ground with better movement BUT against Arsenal in the second half Arsenal pressed the ball a lot higher up the pitch so to try and find the space between their defence and midfield is no bad tactic. Additionally I have kittens when Willo /Simpson try and play out of defence so AP was probably just looking after my health.

 

Serious bit: players need to be more tactically aware - we miss Cabaye.

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"Danny, no more, no more, get it up there".

 

When i saw that in the arsenal game i assumed it meant "please no more goals conceded" but he later went on to say in the post match that he was saying no more goals for us please.

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TBH Krul is the worst culprit for long balls. It's definitely Pardew's tactics though. Enough of our players have admitted that.

 

Percentage football or as i like to call it, cowards long ball fucktard lazy football. It's gutless stuff and an easy way out for a clueless manager, such as ours funnily enough.

 

Honestly just wonder whether it's our bad training since Krul has always had terrible distribution. Frustrates me like nothing else when we're chasing a game and he catches a cross then holds onto the ball for 30 seconds so every one can get in position for the hoof.

 

Yep, that delay in distribution allowing the oppo to get themsleves set..........argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I go mental every single time :(

 

That Everton game man :(

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TBH Krul is the worst culprit for long balls. It's definitely Pardew's tactics though. Enough of our players have admitted that.

 

Percentage football or as i like to call it, cowards long ball fucktard lazy football. It's gutless stuff and an easy way out for a clueless manager, such as ours funnily enough.

 

Honestly just wonder whether it's our bad training since Krul has always had terrible distribution. Frustrates me like nothing else when we're chasing a game and he catches a cross then holds onto the ball for 30 seconds so every one can get in position for the hoof.

 

Yep, that delay in distribution allowing the oppo to get themsleves set..........argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I go mental every single time :(

 

That Everton game man :(

 

I think i read that Krul hit it long 31 times in that match :(

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"Danny, no more, no more, get it up there".

 

When i saw that in the arsenal game i assumed it meant "please no more goals conceded" but he later went on to say in the post match that he was saying no more goals for us please.

 

Pardew pointed towards the opponents goal and said 'get it up there'. He was talking about the ball, I assume no more no more was about short passing.

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"Danny, no more, no more, get it up there".

 

When i saw that in the arsenal game i assumed it meant "please no more goals conceded" but he later went on to say in the post match that he was saying no more goals for us please.

 

Pardew pointed towards the opponents goal and said 'get it up there'. He was talking about the ball, I assume no more no more was about short passing.

 

Hate to say this through my Pardew hatred but i do remember thinking he was talking about Simpson and no more risks at the time.

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And as we've all seen with our own eyes, (but Pards apparently hasn't), launching it long invariably gifts possession to the opponents and puts us back under pressure. I can't stand the guy any more, fucking charlatan.

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In the case of those who still have an ounce of faith in Pardew (myself included), I think it's because (well in my case anyway) we believe that there is a decent manager in there somewhere (last season is proof of that) and he has demonstrated that he's willing to make changes to the system (though admittedly, the necessary changes have come a bit too late) - he's stuck with the same system for a few games now so I would really like to see what happens when our better players are within that system.

 

It's most certainly not ignorance, it's misplaced optimism for me. I'm not blind to all the problems that's going on btw - tactics have been all over the place and and Pardew is rightly being questioned/criticised but like I said yesterday, I'm still willing to give him a chance and I really want to. I will concede that there does come a point when enough's enough - the next couple of games will dictate my feelings.

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It's become increasingly apparent that last season was down to the brilliance of the individual talents that we DO have; Cisse, Ben Arfa, Krul, Colo, Cabaye an on form Tiote. Plus the work of less gifted grafters such as Jonas and Perch of help. It was hard to ignore the criticisms made of that season as many had similar worries about tactics; but the negatives were less ugly to face because of this individual brilliance. Without these players Pardew has shown very little to me that he has the pedigree that many touted he had last season. Yes; he can quite legitimately blame the owners and lack of investment, he can also blame injuries to an extent. But to make the errors he has done of the past few weeks and absolve himself on any responsibility at any opportunity, whilst making the same stubborn and mind-numbing mistakes in inexcuseable. I want things to change badly and drastically and I just can't see it under both this clown and the uber-clowns above him.

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We should lock the thread as he's resigned - on Twitter and probably Facebook as well. How this links to real life only time will tell.

 

absolute a ton of people saying it on twitter and fb, not one souse quoted from any. dunno how they believe it

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We should lock the thread as he's resigned - on Twitter and probably Facebook as well. How this links to real life only time will tell.

 

absolute a ton of people saying it on twitter and fb, not one sauce quoted from any. dunno how they believe it

 

It was the same last night.  Not a chance.

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Had enough of this man.

 

Builds an entire season around a man that he said is always at risk of losing due to his contract.

 

What a genius.

 

:lol:

 

Sounds bonkers when you put it like that.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Newcastle_United_F.C._managers

 

Since 2006 (6 years), we've had 7 managers: Roeder, Allardyce, Keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton, Pardew. Out of those, Pardew is the only one that has started and finished a season as full time manager. He finished 5th and we nearly got into the champions league.

 

This season has been poor, for which Pardew must take some of the blame. Frankly though, is there any manager out there who:

 

1) Would have got more points on the board, taking into account the total lack of a squad capable of competing, decimated by injuries

2) Would fit in with "the system" and be willing to work under Fat Mike and Dekka for peanuts

3) Would manage to produce better attacking football, taking into account the glaring squad weaknesses, decimated by injuries

4) Would be worth the loss of credibility due to sacking someone who has got us our highest league finish in years, taking into account all of the above.

 

I think for Newcastle, changing the manager has always been the solution, and frankly its never really worked. The grass may be greener, but given that Ashley has hired and fired Allardyce, Keegan and Hughton more or less because he doesnt get on with them and they dont fit in the system, surely its only a matter of time before whichever mediocre manager we were to appoint gets the boot.

 

For anyone looking to make a name for themselves in management, they arent going to want to come here, work under Ashley with minimal investment in players, and then eventually be made the scapegoat when it doesnt work out as planned.

 

We've got through managers faster than Ashley gets through pies and when they've left its hardly been onwards and upwards each time. Allardyce and Hughton seem to be doing very well because they are at much better run clubs.

 

For me, Ashley's last of many chances was when he appointed Pardew after sacking Hughton, Keegan and Allardyce in a short space of time. His whole regime's credibility depends on Pardew's success, because surely after so many poor decisions and dismal failures, there wouldn't be anyone who would want to come here amid the turmoil and who would be a success.

 

If Pardew goes, Ashley has to go as he will have consistently mucked it up over numerous years with many chances and lost all credibility. Since I don't see this realistically happening, Pardew has to stay for me.

 

I think a better solution would be a striker in January, finishing off a crap season, reviewing in Summer, building a squad with Pardew and then this time next season if we aren't considerably better then Pardew and Ashley can both fuck off.

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The elephant in the room though is that Pardew being left in charge will probably relegate us.

Right now I'd probably agree but do you honestly think anybody else could do better given the squad we have available? and if so who?

It's a clusterfuck for sure, but I'd be inclined to stick than twist at the minute.

 

 

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The elephant in the room though is that Pardew being left in charge will probably relegate us.

Right now I'd probably agree but do you honestly think anybody else could do better given the squad we have available? and if so who?

It's a clusterfuck for sure, but I'd be inclined to stick than twist at the minute.

 

 

 

I'd bet quite a few managers could get those available to function as a team, even Glenn Roeder bloody did it.

 

Remember this bad run also started with most of the squad available.

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