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His problem is fans aren't thick and we have good memories. Coming out and saying how much we needed to fill certain positions in the summer and then moving the goal posts by saying "the fans should feel lucky we didn't sell anyone" when we barely signed anyone was an insult and patronising. He knows the drill and he knows the rules from MA/DL which had been set when he took the job but coming out with statements like that one just make him look weak.

 

This - and he IS weak...wouldn't be in the job otherwise as the terrible twosome don't do strong managers - puppets only allowed.

 

We have no evidence from his past record that he will start learning and he's in his 50s now.

 

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First, the part in bold is completely untrue.

 

Second, the manger has access to more information than any of us will ever be privy to. When he makes selections that seem crazy to us it may just be because there are other reasons we're not aware of. Regardless of whether he's incompetent relative to others in his trade, Alan Pardew knows infinitely more about football, tactics, and the personality, form, and physical state of every single one of our players than all of us. So when doesn't do something that seems obvious perhaps it's not as obvious as you think.

 

(That said, the manager also has the weakness of being personally connected to the situation, which means he may make bad decisions based on things like personalities, friendships, or pride. I often find that it's much easier to explain puzzling tactical decisions in these terms rather than "he's an idiot.")

 

Can you think of some examples of what information Pardew has that we don't, which might suggest that any of the following is a good idea when everybody else can see it failing during an actual match:

 

Moving to 4-4-2 at the begining of this season.

Bypassing midfield.

Cisse is better on the wing than through the middle.

Shola up front is a good idea.

Cabaye is a better footballer when the ball is launched over his head.

Jonas is going to perform during a match when everybody can see that he's not doing it.

Williamson is good enough to play half the season in central defence.

Spending 4 out of 5 days a week on defence is improving performances.

We should restrict a Championship team for 70 minutes before trying to get something from the game.

Virtually playing 2 teams a week then complaining that we have no continuity.

Virtually playing 2 teams a week then complain that out players are tired.

 

I know I've cherry picked a few examples but the list could go on and on and on.  We are where we are for a reason and the main reason is that this season, Pardew hasn't been up to the job.

 

You've claimed that "Alan Pardew knows infinitely more about football, tactics, and the personality, form, and physical state of every single one of our players than all of us."

 

I've seen nothing at all to suggest that he knows any more about football, tactics, form and physical state of our players than your average fan.  Our game play and results suggest that he hasn't got a clue and I would think that most fans could have come up with a more effective plan than Pardew has, especially this season.

 

Basically, he is an idiot.

 

We can bring in new players and they will give Pardew more options but he's had options for most of the season and more often than not he's got them wrong.  As far as I'm concerned the biggest improvement we could get this season would be to get rid of him and bring in somebody with fresh ideas, somebody who can get the best out of the players he has at his disposal.

 

The only way Pardew will be a success here is if he stumbles across something that works and actually sticks to it because I have absolutely no faith in him devising a style of play of his own that works.

 

I don’t even think our transfer policy has held us back with him because he doesn’t know how to get the best out of what he’s got.

 

Pretty much agree with all of that.

 

Aye, me too. Great post Mick ;).

 

But you have broken my heart not mentioning the set penises :lol:

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From that article:

 

Pardew believes that only against Sunderland in the Tyne-Wear derby at the Stadium of Light was he able to name his strongest team.

 

Krul, Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Ben Arfa, Ba, Shola.

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sat with a glass half full mate who won't have anything said about pardew (believes it's all down to injuries and squad depth), he wheeled out a piece of paper and pen and started showing me formations, how we've got good depth in certain areas and how with a couple of signings we will be decent next season...the formation he'd play etc.

 

i was shaking with rage because he was right, it looks great on paper, but on the piece of paper he failed to draw the fact that pardew is the only manager in the known universe who would play shola and that our players are clearly not coached to play together in any kind of attacking sense

 

he was all ready to make excuses for norwich and when we looked at it we could be fielding: krul, debuchy, perch, colo, santon, bigi, anita, marveaux, obertan, cisse + 1 more who for me would be campbell (intentionally left out willo and shola)

 

that team on paper should be able to go to norwich and beat them, but i'd be willing to bet that most of us here wouldn't raise an eyebrow if we go there, concede within a few minutes and capitulate to a 4-0 loss

 

that's where pardew has taken us

 

 

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Shola did play when he was on during that match tbf.  Though Williamson ahead of Saylor. :lol:

 

Not quite sure why I am sticking up for him here, but hadn't Taylor only just returned from injury?  Also, Cisse had started the season terribly and he was probably hoping Shola was going to be the mackem slayer once again.

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sat with a glass half full mate who won't have anything said about pardew (believes it's all down to injuries and squad depth), he wheeled out a piece of paper and pen and started showing me formations, how we've got good depth in certain areas and how with a couple of signings we will be decent next season...the formation he'd play etc.

 

i was shaking with rage because he was right, it looks great on paper, but on the piece of paper he failed to draw the fact that pardew is the only manager in the known universe who would play shola and that our players are clearly not coached to play together in any kind of attacking sense

 

he was all ready to make excuses for norwich and when we looked at it we could be fielding: krul, debuchy, perch, colo, santon, bigi, anita, marveaux, obertan, cisse + 1 more who for me would be campbell (intentionally left out willo and shola)

 

that team on paper should be able to go to norwich and beat them, but i'd be willing to bet that most of us here wouldn't raise an eyebrow if we go there, concede within a few minutes and capitulate to a 4-0 loss

 

that's where pardew has taken us

 

 

 

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Shola did play when he was on during that match tbf.  Though Williamson ahead of Saylor. :lol:

 

Not quite sure why I am sticking up for him here, but hadn't Taylor only just returned from injury?  Also, Cisse had started the season terribly and he was probably hoping Shola was going to be the mackem slayer once again.

 

Didn't Sky and others try to make out Saylor was dropped because of the "i'll never play for Sunderland" story Saylor did in a paper.

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Without Hatem our attacking ideas are basically hit and miss and would have been worse if Marveux hadn't stepped up a gear. There simply is little cohesion or drilling in our attacking play apart from the usual things all sides do in autopilot.

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Shola did play when he was on during that match tbf.  Though Williamson ahead of Saylor. :lol:

 

Not quite sure why I am sticking up for him here, but hadn't Taylor only just returned from injury?  Also, Cisse had started the season terribly and he was probably hoping Shola was going to be the mackem slayer once again.

 

:thup:

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Without Hatem our attacking ideas are basically hit and miss and would have been worse if Marveux hadn't stepped up a gear. There simply is little cohesion or drilling in our attacking play apart from the usual things all sides do in autopilot.

 

And without Cabaye, which is very important.

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sat with a glass half full mate who won't have anything said about pardew (believes it's all down to injuries and squad depth), he wheeled out a piece of paper and pen and started showing me formations, how we've got good depth in certain areas and how with a couple of signings we will be decent next season...the formation he'd play etc.

 

i was shaking with rage because he was right, it looks great on paper, but on the piece of paper he failed to draw the fact that pardew is the only manager in the known universe who would play shola and that our players are clearly not coached to play together in any kind of attacking sense

 

he was all ready to make excuses for norwich and when we looked at it we could be fielding: krul, debuchy, perch, colo, santon, bigi, anita, marveaux, obertan, cisse + 1 more who for me would be campbell (intentionally left out willo and shola)

 

that team on paper should be able to go to norwich and beat them, but i'd be willing to bet that most of us here wouldn't raise an eyebrow if we go there, concede within a few minutes and capitulate to a 4-0 loss

 

that's where pardew has taken us

 

 

 

Spot on, on paper we should be fine, even with the injuries we have, picking up 7 to 9 points from these next 3 games on paper should be no problem, however Pardew has taken us to a place where that scenario seems highly far fetched and getting one win and two losses is the most likely outcome.

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I see what you're saying, but losses breed losses and lower confidence as well. Players who 'should be fine on paper' can start to look terrible when they're on a really bad run. Obviously it's Pardew's job to turn it around like.

 

It really doesn´t help that he every single week, pre- and post matches, talk about getting back injured players..

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I see what you're saying, but losses breed losses and lower confidence as well. Players who 'should be fine on paper' can start to look terrible when they're on a really bad run. Obviously it's Pardew's job to turn it around like.

 

It really doesn´t help that he every single week, pre- and post matches, talk about getting back injured players..

 

Exactly, it's like saying to the players he's picking in place of his "better players" that they are crap but we have to put them out there, further damaging their confidence.

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